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The Times asked nine area residents to discuss their views on the Atlantic Yards project. What struck us in reading the responses was what a war of hyperbole and propaganda this whole thing has been, from the promises of hand-outs and subsidies to the scare renderings showing Fort Greene being cast in a perpetual shadow. What continues to amaze us is how many of the poorer people in favor of the project seem to think they actually have a decent statistical chance of getting anything out of this.
The Basketball Fan: “We could walk right to the Atlantic Yards from our house and watch a basketball game. That’s a beautiful thing. The fans, we’re going to be ready for them.”
The Homemaker: “If there’s a huge development plunked down in the middle of our neighborhood, the tone of the whole area will gradually change. People who can afford very high housing prices have to be well off, and I would suspect that most of those new people would be white. I’m fearful of the neighborhood changing so much that we wouldn’t want to live here.”
The Investor: “Is it good? Yeah, it’s good for businesses. Everybody’s property is going to go up in the next 10 years. Property in the range of a million will become $2 million, maybe $4 million.”
On The Block [NY Times]

The Retiree: “The Mitchell-Lama building I’m living in will soon be developed into something higher priced. This is a neighborhood I loved. I just don’t know what the future holds for me and people like me, who can’t afford the high prices of the high-rises.”
The Merchant: “A lot of [my customers] come by car. My concern is, if they can’t park, will they stay? We’ve seen a few larger buildings go up in the area, and parking has become an issue. It can only get worse.”
The Gardener: “The project would take away our sunshine until about noon every day. So from enjoying 12 or more hours of full sun, we’re going to be down to 6 or 8. We don’t know what kind of environment we’ll be in that people would want to garden. Would you want to do a vegetable garden next to Madison Square Garden?”
The Apartment Seeker: I’ve heard they’re supposed to build this complex that gives you a laundry room, places to exercise, places to shop. I’m hoping I’m a candidate. If [Atlantic Yards] is going to bring back a certain culture and standard we had years ago, I think that’s great.”
The Mother: “I’ve seen renderings where the skyscrapers would cast shadows over a third of the park, covering the entire playground, for half of the day. I can’t imagine that the grass would be as green or it would be as nice a place to hang out. If there’s more traffic in the area, it’s just more dangerous. It’s not the type of situation I imagined raising a child in.”
The Business Hopeful: “What I’ve been hearing is they’ll help individuals who want to open small businesses in the footprint of the project, whether by reducing the rent or helping you with a business plan. If I can get in with help in terms of rent and the development of my dream, I’m with it.”


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  1. It’s true, people drive like angry maniacs through those intersections there. Literally the only road-rage screamers I’ve ever personally encountered in all of NYC while riding in a car have been in the intersections in and around the AY footprint. It’s what terrible congestion does to people. Add macho sports fans and drinking, the formula is explosive.

  2. Two traffic fatalities on Atlantic in the past few weeks: one at Hoyt + one at Bond. Would like to see a qoute from ther families because there is more to come when more traffic comes, particulalry after drivers get nice and beered up at the arena.

  3. Reading some of these comments, it’s kinda shocking how FCR’s public relations machine has triumphed. Did anybody tell the teacher who wants a decent apt that the expected average rent of the AFFORDABLE housing component will be about $2,000? FCR used city-wide income stats (actually extending as far as Westchester Co), instead of Central Brooklyn stats, so that most of their so-called affordable housing is targeted at people earning $60k a year. Sheesh, you’re even eligible if you earn over $100k. But for the 24% of Prospect Heights residents who earn under $20k — sorry, no deal. For those folks, who many would describe as the real working poor of NYC, there are zero, zilch affordable housing units allocated at Atlantic Yards.

  4. They forgot about THE TAXPAYER, who doesn’t think the public should pay for Ratner to get richer.
    It would be a lot harder to be against this if he wasn’t getting a sweetheart deal on the land, plus massive subsidies.

  5. Enough of the NIMBY rhetoric!!! This place will get built in one form or another and the effects probably will not be as bad as everyone is predicting. Maybe after it is built all the gentrifiers will leave Fort Greene and its environs and the nabe will become affordable again.

  6. Malymis, I thought the exact same thing when i read the “story” in the Times. If that guy or anyone else gets to open a single-proprietorship bar or restaurant within the AY footprint i’ll be shocked. It’ll likely be chili’s, outback steak house, hard rock cafe, etc. whatever is in times square…

    the NY Times should be ashamed by their lack of credible coverage of this impending disaster – So should all of the city and state officials that have provided the power cover for Ratner. Despicable.

    Just take a long gander at Atlantic Mall and Metrotech – that’s the developer’s benchmark of excellence.

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