Hearing for Lingering Atlantic Yards Case
Atlantic Yards Report has a lengthy piece on yesterday’s hearing in Manhattan Supreme Court on one of the only remaining legal challenges against the mega-project. The main issue yesterday, according to AY Report: “A lawyer for the community coalition BrooklynSpeaks assailed a ‘cover up’ by the Empire State Development Corporation (ESDC) over the legitimacy of…
Atlantic Yards Report has a lengthy piece on yesterday’s hearing in Manhattan Supreme Court on one of the only remaining legal challenges against the mega-project. The main issue yesterday, according to AY Report: “A lawyer for the community coalition BrooklynSpeaks assailed a ‘cover up’ by the Empire State Development Corporation (ESDC) over the legitimacy of the ESDC’s response to a court order requiring it to explain why it didn’t need issue a Supplementary Environmental Impact Statement to study the impact of a potential 25-year buildout.” After hearing from lawyers representing the community groups and the ESDC and Forest City Ratner, the judge “heard a request for a stay on Atlantic Yards construction—a request with the provision that ongoing arena construction could continue—but did not indicate when she’d rule.”
Inconclusive Hearing Over AY Timetable Impacts [AY Report]
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I remain to be convinced of that, bxgrl
As a resident of Park Slope my entire life, I am excited to see all these drastic changes taking place. I always knew Park Slope and its surrounding areas had the potential to become of similar interest to Manhattan. Anyhow, I have been following this project for the past seven years constantly. I knew from the beginning that DDDB and its leader Daniel Goldstein were not going to be able to fight this project, and although they thought they had a chance, all they did was delay the original project and its potential benefits it could have brought to the area before the economy collapsed. Because they did loose, and Ratner was still able to pull this project together sort of under the current economic conditions and get the arena under construction, he still followed through with his future visions for the area. I am not a supporter of Ratner himself, but I am supporter of his visions for the area and this project, and I think once the arena gets built, the rest of the project will come along. The critics of this project need to step off, and move on with their lives because all they are doing at this point is wasting their time and money. Being that I said that, I am excited to see the progress the arena is making, and hope to see it move along at the steady process it has been, and the new opportunities for residents and local businesses in Park Slope and the surrounding areas.
The funniest part of this thread is gabby’s description of Norman Oder’s column as “lengthy”. I’m not sure why she felt it necessary to use that term, given its redundancy whenever mentioning anything written by this man.
By the way, Mr. Oder, how is the book going? How many agents and publishers have expressed interest?
>I love the knicks but them tics (with the new 49% hike) is definitively out of my price range
Yeah, because I am sure that Boris Badenov and Bruce are just going to be GIVING away seats. Thanks to the taxpayers (that would be most of us not in the developer/banker business) bearing the costs of this, I’m guessing that they would make profits if the damn thing sat empty 365 days a year. But I’d be interested in joining a pool to guess what the ticket prices are going to be for any schmucks not on an expense account or getting Wall Street bonuses (or not named Marty Markowitz).
I lived in Boston for the most years of anywhere…. and the most direct route to my apartment was through Kenmore Square. Guess what?! I had a Red Sox schedule in my ashtray to know when there was a home game. If so, I drove around.
Not rocket surgery. That’s how a city works. Oh, and there was no problem when I biked to work! Actually, I really miss the mornings and evenings on the Esplanade on the Charles River…. seriously calming. 🙂
There’s nothing frivolous about this lawsuit. Just because the arena is being built doesn’t mean there should be no public oversight. It doesn’t mean FCR and ESDC should be allowed to continue misleading the public about what will be built on the site and when. It doesn’t mean that local residents should endure construction impacts over the next 15 years without a chance for remediation. We have to hold their feet to the fire to obtain justice since they refuse to deal openly and honestly with either local elected offciials or community groups.
I don’t mind good conversations and debate.
Anyone is certainly free to post whatever they want here (as long as site management agrees).
I just get frustrated when everything is so one sided, over the top, and fully of exaggerations and hyperbole.
Personally, I would much rather have a discussion on how to make this project the best it can be rather that why it sucks and will be the downfall of western civilization (yes, that was hyperbole).
morralkan- you’ll have to attend one of our Plusa gatherings and meet us in real life. BHS is actually quite a nice guy (although his wife is much more charming):) Everyone is welcome and you’d be amazed at how much we all enjoy each other- offline, if not on.
I hadn’t realized that the level of discussion here on Brownstoner was always on a lofty, patrician level. I beg your forgiveness, BoerumHillScott, and hope to aspire to your elevated level.
As to the revenue that will be generated, you are correct, more4less, that some revenue will indeed be generated. I exaggerated. Still, if the experience of other cities is any indication, that revenue will be far far less than promised and much less than other development might have yielded. The stadium payroll will not be so great, so the payroll taxes will not exactly be a windfall for us. We might actually get some REAL money out of this fiasco if the rest of AY could be wrested away from Ratner and developed by other, more responsible developers who were not feeding at the public trough. I doubt whether a multi-acre parking lot for decades will generate all that much revenue.