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Today’s the day that the State Appeals Court begins hearing oral arguments in Goldstein et al. v. Empire State Development Corporation; the case was already dismissed in Federal Court. In an exhaustive round-up on Friday, Atlantic Yards Report discusses some reasons why plaintiffs (nine renters and owners in the footprint whose homes, like the three at left above, have been targeted for seizure by eminent domain) have a shot at winning but concedes that “the new case has to be considered a long shot.” Eminent domain arguments aside, the post reminds us of what an untransparent, back-room deal the MTA deal was: First, the MTA announced it would sell to Ratner, then it went through the motions of issuing an RFP; when Extel Development bid $150 million for the Yards versus Ratner’s $50 million, the MTA gave it to Ratner anyway. Nice. Anyway, after Appeals Court hears both sides’ arguments today, it’s expected to take a couple of months to issue a decision.
Oral Argument in State ED Case Approaches [AY Report]
Photo by Tracy Collins and Enhanced by No Land Grab


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  1. Those houses would look even less “blighted” if they’d used a pic from the summer when the windows are filled with cute flowerboxes.

    These houses are definitely a bit worn around the edges, but they add so much to the streetscape. I’ll be so sad if they get torn down.

    I think the apartment buildings to the right of this frame are in reality much more “blighted” looking. I’ve got my fingers crossed for them.

  2. “Looks like you were doing just that in your last post. Who died and maid you the arbiter of what people are allowed to post.”

    Excuse me- that’s exactly what you’re doing, isn’t it? And you did it in a really insulting way. May I also point out that my first post was strictly to rob and I didn’t even refernece you. You are the one who told me not to encourage him and I replied to that. SO if anyone needs to not stick their nose in someone else’s convesation, it was you. Maybe a little reality check on your end?

    Let me also point out- again- this is a blog. You posted publicly and if you think you have a right to complain when someone else comments on it, you are more than a little naive. YOu had no problem insulting or being condescending to rob- and yet you think you have the qualifications to set an example to rob on how to be more effective, mature and less selfish? Right.

  3. Right bxgirl. Because I’m the only one who comments when there are inane posts. Please.

    I’m not allowed to tell someone to STFU when they annoy me? Says who? Looks like you were doing just that in your last post. Who died and maid you the arbiter of what people are allowed to post.

    I’m really just trying to point out to Rob that there a more effective, mature, and less selfish way of becoming an informed citizen than the way he’s been doing it. This isn’t really about you. Not sure why you feel the need to stick your nose in it. If Rob’s got a problem with my comment, I’m sure he’s able to respond himself with your mothering…

  4. So who died and made you the resident lifestyle maven? If you feel the need to insult and bitch about how other people post why don’t you start your own blog and make it a members only?

    If you feel like being that way- feel free. Looks like you and your arrogant ass were made for each other.

  5. I don’t mean to discourage people from asking questions – I love that people ask questions. Lord knows that I’ve done my share of both answering and asking questions on this site.

    What bugs me is rob’s consistent pattern of asking people to explain complicated issues to him in one sentence. If a topic comes up on brownstoner that I don’t know enough about and am curious, first I google it and try to figure it out myself before bugging people about it. Asking people for help is something you do only after you’ve tried to help yourself- unless you’re a lazy,immature teenager. I’m not doing a character assasination simply because he asked a question. I’m expressing frustration based on a several-month consistent pattern of behavior.

    But whatever, if you want to deal with this crap – feel free. It looks like you and rob were made for eachother.

  6. MMHTPH- Although there have been times I lose patience with rob I like that he isn’t afraid to ask questions and sees things with a fresh perspective. He’s got his own unique personality and its refreshing (if not a tad wearing in a harried mom sort of way :-).

    And its a blog- it’s not like anyone has to answer him if they don’t want to. Heaven knows I can get as pissy as anyone, but why insult people or do a character assassination simply because they asked a question? I don’t like it when its done to me- I’m sure you don’t like it when its done to you.

    ask away rob- and I loved your story about going to PP and watching the ducks. Sure you can always google, but I hope you never feel you can’t ask a question.

  7. Actually Rob, I got a great night’s sleep last night. Best in a months really. I’m just tired of your intellectual laziness.

    Bxgirl – please don’t encourage this kind of behavior. If people keep spoonfeeding him, he’s never gonna actually make any effort to figure this stuff out himself.

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