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For the past several months, a Community Board 6 committee has been considering a local business owner’s application to get a liquor license for a bar he wants to open on Hoyt and Union. The board examined whether zoning allows for a drinking establishment in the building, which is adjacent to the Black Mountain Wine Bar, and also heard from some neighbors (especially a group called the Hoyt Street Alliance) who were opposed to the proposed business for a number of reasons, including the fact that it’s near a school and the stretch of Hoyt it would open on is primarily residential. After chewing on the application for a long time, CB6 finally voted in favor of the liquor license application last week, but controversy about the establishment and the board’s vote (which is ultimately only advisory, though it’s weighed by the State Liquor Authority) is still alive on the web. Pardon Me For Asking has penned a couple of withering posts on the topic, writing, “As far as I am concerned, C.B.6 just signaled to all restaurateurs that this district is a free for all and that residential streets are as good as any to open bars,” and also including commentary from former CB6 member Barbara Brookhart about the decision. Brookhart said “it appears that the Board gave more weight to a few residents that approved having the restaurant and bar, than the block association’s petition of about 300 names against the approval of the license.” Meanwhile, on the Carroll Gardens Neighborhood Association message board, a couple people have had a more tempered opinion of the board’s actions. One CB member, who voted against the liquor license, nevertheless notes that “commercial use is legal, although non-conforming to current zoning at that location,” while another nearby resident wrote, “Actually, I think the folks on Hoyt have a point, though having the existing bar there has been an amenity which brightens an otherwise isolated area, and impacts positively on our community.” The business owner who made the application for the oyster bar is Jim Mamary, the successful Smith Street restaurateur who was behind Patois and other notable eateries.
Community “Business” Board 6 Sticks It To Hoyt & Bond Residents [Pardon Me For Asking] GMAP


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  1. RIGHT ON BENSON!!! The pathetic nimby scum who are always pathetic losers try to make people think they are the voice of the community, when the reality is they know the property owners and normal residents wouldn’t or couldn’t be bothered, or have the time to voice their support. It’s easy to spend time protesting when you only have to pony up a pittance for a rent controlled dump of an apartment. The rest of us have loftier pursuits.

  2. BoerumHill: On an emotional level, I feel bad for the immediate neighbors whose homes and daily lives truly will be negatively affected by increased noise, trash, whatever. But on a rational level, I don’t. Assuming they own, and assuming this is, in fact, a legal use, they bought next door to a commercial property and either did or could have demanded that this risk be priced in to their purchase. The fact that the risk is becoming a reality for them is bad luck, but not unjust. And also, I like oysters.

  3. we are still talking about carroll gardens, right? all it takes is a hand shake.

    one bar fine…2 on a residential block is too many.

    and this notion that more is ok on a residential block and that we’re a bunch of nimby’s is out of line. it’s great that the neighborhoods are thriving, but there is a point where it could tip beyond and there’s usually no going back…see east village…

  4. First of all, Benson – will you marry me? Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    Second of all, I am a resident of Union St just a few doors down from the wine bar. I can only say positive things about the results of this place. I have never seen a problem with the crowd and I welcome it.

    Before the wine bar, Union & Hoyt street was a desolate and potentially unsafe area to walk through at night. There were all kinds of weary characters just hanging around on the corner by the school. Since then, that crowd has moved on.

    Also, the owners and managers of Blk Mtn are very considerate of their neighbors and monitor the noise outside.

    WTF is the problem???? If you want to live in Suburbia, move the fuck out of NYC and go back to the midwest where you belong.
    You’re in Brooklyn people!!

    Ugh…another reason I hate transplants.

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