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I had two really hard core Manhattanites out to Park Slope for brunch yesterday. ALL they talked about was how they wanted to move out here…they commented that the men are hotter, the stores were cuter, the people were nicer and that it was greener and prettier. Even though the economy is in the toilet,…
I had two really hard core Manhattanites out to Park Slope for brunch yesterday. ALL they talked about was how they wanted to move out here…they commented that the men are hotter, the stores were cuter, the people were nicer and that it was greener and prettier. Even though the economy is in the toilet, it doesn’t change the fact that there are some really spectacular things about Brooklyn, and some people as they tire of Manhattan will consider it more and more, I believe.
— by 11217 in Sales: Turner Towers Spread Gets Full Asking Price
Oh boy! What a day!
Big changes are in the air.
11217: I have never encountered anyone on this blog in more denial than you. Did you just buy? Are you in your twenties or maybe early thirties?
Take a chill pill kid.
Buckle your seat belts, and in another three or four years you will know a lot more about what you are talking about.
Meanwwhile…. wheeeeeeeeee!
OK, OK 11217…you have made your point. Brooklyn is unsinkable, it is the best, the Dodgers are bums…. blah blah blah. But the reality is that people will pursue what is in their own best interests. If you were born in 1954 and have lived here all your life then of course you would not leave even if a meteorite hit the Navy Yard and flooded half of Brooklyn. But if you are still young and ambitious and opportunity beckons in Dallas, or Abu Dabi, you go like lightning. There has been an unrealistic spike in prices in Brooklyn over the past four to five years, Now we will see a correction. this is a good thing. although some that have bought recently will suffer. It’s about money and business not about “love” or “loyalty”. Brooklyn got too expensive. Now it will probaboly be too cheap. That’s the way markets work. I have seen it happen before and I am seeing it happen again.
Last I checked, Hellesbelles, anyone can comment on these threads. I’m simply stating my beliefs. If you don’t agree, feel free to say so. I am but one voice on this blog of many. I fail to see how I’m unwelcoming of anyone who disagrees, however simply because I have a strong viewpoint. I welcome it, in fact…but there are times when people are right and there are times when they are wrong.
To suggest that the population of NYC is cyclical is false. I showed you information to prove that fact. It also shows that even during the Great Depression, people did not leave the city in greater numbers than they arrived.
Can we stop tiptoeing around everything in this world and actually call things as we see them?
People in NYC are so insulated sometimes, it almost sounds like some people never leave. To suggest that people are wanting to leave for greener pastures, don’t leave the city much. The rest of this country…in many areas anyway are hurting BADLY. Even in LA, people have seen their home values plummet 30% or more across the board. I have friends in Arizona who’s home is worth about a third of what they paid for it 2 years ago. Things out in much of the rest of the country is dismal, so I was simply stating that if you have the temptation to leave (which is totally valid) you might want to go out there and see what the rest are having to deal with…$4 gas, etc etc etc…it’s not pretty. And jobs are SCARCE!
You’re right, 11217. Lived here since the day I was born on 1954 and ain’t going nowhere for no one.
11217 – I don’t understand some of you people. You loved New York, brownstones and Brooklyn up until a month ago. Now that the economy stinks, you don’t like it anymore? You probably weren’t meant for NYC in the first place then.
You make some good points but wow, patronizing much? Can you let some other people in to the discussion without turning this board into a personal chat session and firing off barbs at anyone who dares to disagree?
Hey Biff, yes fun. Will you be flying the Brownstoner flag?
1920 5,620,048 17.9%
1930 6,930,446 23.3%
1940 7,454,995 7.6%
Looks like even in the Great D. people were still moving to NYC. Interesting…
I’m actually kind of excited by the economic crisis … it might move real estate in neighborhoods I actually want to live in, into the realm of possibility for my fiancee and I.
Course, if I lose my job and end up riding the rails and getting into knife fights over cans of beans, that would kind of suck.
And the info below would actually say that your statement “It’s a cycle” is not completely accurate on the influx of people to NYC. There seems to be a couple of off years, but in general this does not look cyclical to me…
1698 4,937 —
1712 5,840 18.3%
1723 7,248 24.1%
1737 10,664 47.1%
1746 11,717 9.9%
1756 13,046 11.3%
1771 21,863 67.6%
1790 33,131 51.5%
1800 60,515 82.7%
1810 96,373 59.3%
1820 123,706 28.4%
1830 202,589 63.8%
1840 312,710 54.4%
1850 696,490 122.7%
1860 813,669 16.8%
1870 942,292 15.8%
1880 1,206,299 28.0%
1890 1,515,301 25.6%
1900 3,437,202 126.8%
1910 4,766,883 38.7%
1920 5,620,048 17.9%
1930 6,930,446 23.3%
1940 7,454,995 7.6%
1950 7,891,957 5.9%
1960 7,781,984 −1.4%
1970 7,894,862 1.5%
1980 7,071,639 −10.4%
1990 7,322,564 3.5%
2000 8,008,288 9.4%
2007* 8,295,029 3.6%