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Can a subway line take credit for a neighborhood’s renaissance? A writer at the Observer has publicly professed her love for the Q, and links it to Ditmas Park’s becoming “a suburban-urban blend of creative-class types, beautiful buildings and low prices.” She chose her own apartment, presumably in Prospect Heights, based on its proximity to the Q’s 7th Avenue stop (on the corner of Flatbush), only three stops in. She says the Q is the L of the 21st century, “with new crops of people popping out of its stations along a path rumbling through central and southern Brooklyn, from Downtown, Park Slope, Midwood and Ditmas Park, through Sheepshead Bay and, via an expert right turn, Brighton Beach and Coney Island.” She quotes other Q lovers, noting that celebs have been seen eating in restaurants along the train’s route, and that the express line has allowed Ditmas Park and others to blossom. “Perhaps the nabes along the Q are stealing just a little bit of thunder from other creative hubs like Williamsburg.” If that’s true, what other subway lines might help a neighborhood become the next Williamsburg?
Can the Q Be the Next L? [NY Observer]
Q Train. Photo by FlySi.


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  1. actually, unlike you, i read the article, and your post, and others’ posts, before i wrote anything. and i didn’t “recant” anything – i was just noting for the record that i now have fully understood the pointlessness of your remarks. and i’m so sorry you’re not feeling quite on top of things today! chin up, it’ll get better, sweetie, even if you’re not getting your bonus this year.

  2. There are other train refs in popular music :

    ” Aight baby show me the exact spot
    Meet me at Hoyt and Schermerhorn at 3 on the dot
    So I hops up on the A-Train, I’m bein followed
    My seventh sense senses danger
    I turn around, it’s Anger
    and he brought a mob along, it’s the same old song
    Despair and Animosity got broke with the swiftness
    I don’t know what they think this is”

    Jeru- You can’t stop the prophet

  3. “Yeah, but the Beastie Boys rapped about the D train, back when it ran on the Brighton line: Groggy eyed and fried I’m headed for the station
    D-Train ride Coney Island vacation”

    If you’re going to talk hip-hop train songs, Brand Nubian’s “Punks Jump Up to Get Beat Down” ranks ahead of the Beasties. Showing he’s a native NYer, Sadat X refers to the subway as “the train” in this song.

  4. Flatbushwhacker;

    A correction on one factual point. The Brighton line is not the only one in the city that runs in an open cut for an extended length of time. The Sea Beach line (the N train) runs in an open cut below the 59th Street stop in Sunset Park. My guess is that the length of the Sea Beach open cut is a good deal longer that of the Brighton line. It runs between Sunset Park and Coney Island, whereas the Brighton Line transitions from an open cut to an elevated line in the Midwood area.

  5. Perhaps if you actually read before you commented you wouldn’t have to recant and/or post more dribble.

    You probably didn’t read those loan docs either. How are you enjoying your stimulus package?

  6. oh, okay. so you were just constructing your own straw man to knock down for sport, since no one here and no one in the article actually said they were “heavily influenced” in their housing purchase by “1” subway line. hooray! moretea thinks no one is asinine.

    oh, and by the way, you owe dave and bxgrl royalties for stealing their very unique and powerful internet slam.

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