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Income levels that would enable a very comfortable lifestyle in other locales barely suffice to provide the basics in New York City, says the the Center for an Urban Future in a new report that merely provides data to back up what all city residents already new. The group estimates that the same quality of life that costs $50,000 a year in Houston will run you $123,322 in the Big Apple; San Francisco is a distant second at $95,489 with LA at $80,583 and Philadelphia at $69,196. In addition, many New Yorkers put up with commutes that double the national average of 25 minutes. One Brooklyn Bridge Park even gets an unnamed reference: “If it wasn’t already clear that the cost of living in New York City is greatly out-of-whack with the rest of the country, it certainly became apparent in early 2008 when a new condo development in Brooklyn Heights began selling individual parking spaces—not apartments, parking spaces—for as much as $280,000.” So it’s no surprise that the report finds that many people have been giving up on New York. In fact, twice as many people with bachelor’s degrees left New York in 2005-2006 than in the prior two-year period. So what’s to do: Among other recommendations, the report suggests diversifying the economy, focus on basic infrastructure and quality of life issues rather than building flashy new projects and increase housing stock that is affordable to the middle class.


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  1. “my friend just got a house in the kensington area of philly for 40k.i guess i dont really know about philly.300-400K? in Philly? i dont think so.”

    Kensington to Center City = Bronx Projects to Manhattan

    I guess you don’t really know anything about Philly.

  2. I guess that’s the difference between New Yorkers and transplants.

    I don’t walk down the street and want to slap anyone.

    Especially not people I know nothing about.

    You give New Yorkers a bad name, cornerbodega. You sound like the really ignorant kind. I’m glad I haven’t come into contact with too many people like you.

  3. Omg, 11217 how much of a wannabe are you? You’re one of those guys that you see on the street, know nothing about him but you’re SURE hes a d*ck. Long time New Yorkers know people like you, we walk past and say to ourselves “I just wanna slap that a*shole”. Please excuse the vile tone, its just a New York thing. Something you know nothing about. Run along and watch reruns of Sex and the City…

  4. what the hell r u talking about DAVE? my friend just got a house in the kensington area of philly for 40k.i guess i dont really know about philly.300-400K? in Philly? i dont think so.

  5. CMU;

    You have a disturbing propensity to put words in other folks’ mouths. This is not the first time you’ve done this in a discussion with me.

    For you information: my close friends do share my values. I don’t know where I said that they don’t. I am active in a local religious/fraternal/charitable organization, and I devote a fair amount of time to it.

    It is precisely because I am grounded in my values, and secure in them, that I want to talk to folks who have a different point of view. There is such a thing as mental “in-breeding”, if you’re not careful..

    One of the great strengths of this country is that it is “dynamic”: it takes in different folks, and integrates their values to form a union. Believe me, few countries have this ability. I travel often to Japan too and one of the reasons they have been in a funk for 15 years is that there is no “new thinking” there about how to regain their edge. They are too homgeneous.

  6. “Middle America” to me means just what it says. Americans who live in the middle of the country and not on the coasts.

    It is not a derogatory term.

    We have seen from the election however that much of “Middle America” does seem to be leaning in one direction which differs from that of the areas on the coasts with regard to political and social issues.

    It’s not better or worse…it’s different.

  7. benson, I stand by my words. There’s a reason for the expression “birds of a feather etc.” If your close, real friends don’t share a lot with you, you’re pretty unusual. I’m not saying that one can’t have plenty of diversity among acquaintances, sports buddies, board memberships and what have you.

    NO one said Middle America or whatever was not “good.” But if I think NYC is the best, it means in all kinds of mostly objective ways, it’s best for me, and, by extension, people I associate with.

    In fact, *your* eager desire to chat up farmers or for that matter nuclear scientists or back-to-the-earthers or all kinds of people who don’t live in NYC is just as suspect…as they’d say in my ex-state (CA) you’re still finding yourself.

  8. I find it amusing that wine lover is accusing other people of putting people down and earlier this week had this lovely quote to share:

    “these “new Central and South American Latinos” can f*ck off. they are TERRIBLE for our society.”

    Ok, not so much amusing….more disgusting.

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