It Came From 4th Ave: The Electryifying Conclusion!
When we last checked in on the 4th Ave sliver at the corner of Carroll, the rental building’s facade was sporting a snazzy new layer of cinder blocks. More recently, however, the cinder blocks have been covered with the same materials used on the side of the building—though the colors of the two sections of…

When we last checked in on the 4th Ave sliver at the corner of Carroll, the rental building’s facade was sporting a snazzy new layer of cinder blocks. More recently, however, the cinder blocks have been covered with the same materials used on the side of the building—though the colors of the two sections of street-level facade are now different, and it’s unclear when, if ever, the discrepancy will be remedied. Still: Progress! The other new thingamajig on the structure is a gated garbage can area that may well turn out to be the best looking thing about this building.
It Came From 4th Ave! [Brownstoner] GMAP
Rob,
A video arcade would be amazing in PS. I would think that could be a really successful business.
“lower slope from Flatbush to 9th has ZERO pharmacies/drug stores”
There is a CVS at 9th Street and 5th Avenue, an Eckerd (or is it Rite Aid now?) at 5th Avenue and 10th Street and Neergaard at 10th Street and 5th Avenue.
I guess one on 4th might be nice, but there is no shortage of Drug Stores within a couple block radius and they like to open with places with more foot traffic.
Duane Reade sucks anyway. Go to Neergaard.
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Park Slope has just about everything you could want already…\
no it isnt. 1.) there isnt a legit porno shop (babes in toyland does NOT count, you cant buy good hardcore porn there. it’s annoying to have to go into sunset park for porn. (i like porn on dvd, not the computer btw)
2.) there is no large music store.
3.) there is no Wendy’s.
4.) there’s no video game arcade (i know those are rare, but they do exist and new arcade machines come out everyday).
i can go on and on about how park slope doesnt have any of the basic essentials and ammenities for a non snob like myself.
*rob*
11217 actually 4th Ave needs a Duane Reade – lower slope from Flatbush to 9th has ZERO pharmacies/drug stores
– weird actually – their site guys will put 2 on every corner in Manhattan and then ignore 4th Ave because it probably doesnt fit within their guidelines – but 10 years from now it will and they’ll pay 3x the rent
“If you make retail rents cheap enough people WILL lease it.”
Sure…I agree w/that. But how will you make rents cheaper? As 11217 points out, 4th Av retail will have to compete with (already high-priced) retail locations on 7th and 5th. Frankly, I don’t see it happening.
11217 is also correct in that there’s already some retail on 4th. Perhaps there’s room for more. But it will take investors prepared to take risks. It’s nice to TALK about opening a bar, but how many people are going to put their money on the table and actually do it? Perhaps that’s one reason we don’t see ground-floor retail space in every condo.
this building is just so deeply upsetting
11217 – this is a city and ALL buildings built on main thoroughfares should have retail spaces period – encourages pedestrian life, reduces crime – it’s ALWAYS a win win. Why in god’s name would you argue to keep 4th ave (or any street) a wasteland? I unfortunately have to spend more time than i’d like in this area since my son attends the children’s school and I would love to see the glimmerings of a vibrant retail culture along this hideous ave. unfortunately, it attracts only the deepest and most dim witted assholes of the development world who seem to be committed to keeping the ave a pit and their property values low.
There already is quite a bit of new and older retail along 4th Avenue….the new coffee shop Root Cafe, Zuzu Ramen, Papa John’s, Brownstone Bagel, Sheep Station, 4th Avenue Pub, the list goes on and on.
No, it’s not wall to wall retail and this area doesn’t really need much more retail since 5th, 7th, Smith and Flatbush Avenues are all PACKED with miles of retail for as far as the eye can see.
How many more stores does one need exactly…? Honestly, Park Slope has just about everything you could want already…it’s retail saturated. Now I just wish some of the restaurants would improve in quality, but there really is not a lack of retail in this area.
4th Ave has a gritty feel. It’s on the border of an industrial and a brownstone neighborhood. Why do people seem to want it to be something it’s not…?
“Probably a very simple reason – they can’t sell it. Would you want to open a store on 4th Av?”
If you build it they will come.
If you make retail rents cheap enough people WILL lease it. People talk like 4th avenue is 150 miles away from 5th avenue.
Hell yeah i would open a bar/restaurant on 4th avenue.
I need to ask everyone here a question- Why was Dave allowed to use the “N word” without any repercussions from the Brownstoner readers???????!!!!
I will await your answers…
The What (Reaches for the Rocket Launcher)
Someday this war is gonna end…
“Yes, Kens, “faggot” is as bad as “nigger.” Both are typically used in the same tone and for the same effect. Both will get you an upgrade to a hate crime when assault is involved. Oddly though, both are used by repective members of both groups amongst themselves.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at June 23, 2009 11:25 AM”