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This was recently posted Brooklynian.com:

Is it me, or is the drug dealing on St. John’s and Franklin out of hand? Perhaps it is me, because I am around during the day and I see it. But as clear as day I see hand offs, and guys going to their stash in nearby garbages. I guess I am just surprised by how obvious it all is. Are the cops on the take or just don’t care?

A number of follow-up comments suggest this is indeed a hot-spot. Anyone have anything to add about the history and current status of this location? This is the 77th Precinct’s turf: What have people’s experiences been with them? Maybe these new streetlights will ameliorate the problem.


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  1. I don’t think there are too many neighborhoods anywhere that don’t have their good and bad blocks. Crown Heights is huge and to condemn the nighborhood based on a lot of anecdotal stories, and a bad block is to ignore the great neighborhood it actually is. It’s hardly a fringe neighborhood and that’s by virtue of years of hard work by long time residents and homeowners- not gentrifyiers or newbies. All of whom are welcome in any case.

    However as to those who love making pronouncements as to what life is like in Crown Heights yet don’t live here, get over yourselves. You don’t know- and that’s your loss, not Crown Height’s.

    Putnamdenizen- great posts today! Ignore fsrq- he’s conversationally challenged.

  2. Tiptoe:

    St. John’s between 5th and 6th is not the average North Slope block. It is almost all low income housing…they are brownstones, so not everyone would know it, but they are.

    While it’s not horrible, by any stretch of the imagination, I wouldn’t say it feels like the other blocks around it.

  3. FSRQ – hardly ever?

    Your memory of your comments directed to me is about as accurate as the memory of most detectives who I cross on the stand. One of the main problems of the “war” on drugs is that it encourages and rewards the most creative lying on the part of law enforcement in order to overcome constitutional challenges. My experience in the Bronx is that this taints the communities in a way which undercuts more important prosecutions of violent crimes. Despite someone’s (yours) protestations to the contrary, the police do do sweeps (normally out of sight of the landed class) and search people at random. High school students are arrested for being in the lobby of the grandmother’s building, and four people are prosecuted for one joint. The fact that prosecutions are dropped after two nights in jail or after a plea to a non-criminal disposition is beside the point. The damage is done, and their mothers, brothers, sisters and fathers are called to jury service with real life experience of arbitrariness and mendacity of the men (and women) in blue.

    My trolling accusation is in lieu of an observation that you are somehow clueless or limited in intelligence. If you say something personal to someone else on a blog to, as you claimed at one point, encourage an interesting conversation, man up and take responsibility for it. Instead each time you have retreated with an accusation that I am too sensitive or responded to a comment not directed to me but rather someone else. Seems rather disengenuous.

    A broader comment is that those who expect the police to end the drug trade are really looking in the wrong direction. They can’t. Again it can only be masked by community concerns and community activities.

  4. dirty hipster – you must be sight-impaired. st. john’s b/w 5th and 6th in Park Slope has a huge playground and elementary school backing into it. it looks and feels like any other block in the North Slope. You think there are shady characters selling drugs within 100 feet of a school in Park Slope?? Extremely unlikely.

  5. Putnamdenizen –

    1st of all I directed my “advice” (not really meant as such – more a commentary) to LAS attorneys – which it sounds like you are not one – so I still fail to see why you take offense b/c while a generalization – you must admit that many of the young LAS attorney’s handling routine buy-n-busts are simply the reversed mirror image of the 26yr old ADA in your generalization.
    Again, I wasnt criticizing you and there is no reason to be prickly about it – although I do see I was right about you being an Attorney of some kind 🙂

    As for supersleath – I’m afraid your limited experience on 1 Grand Jury does not give you a broad enough perspective on who in our community (through the county clerk) we can get to serve on the typical jury. And if you don’t beleive me w/o tipping your hand, ask your friends and neighbors how they get out of jury service. Sadly most will have a method.

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