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Over on Brooklynian, a concerned mother worries that her attractive daughter is planning to move to a new apartment across the street from the Bushwick projects. The feedback from the peanut gallery is pretty unanimous: She’s got good reason to worry. “Simply put,” responds one board member, “This is a dangerous area and probably a bad place to live if your daughter is not extremely street savvy, large, or armed.” The sentiment is confirmed by another commenter: “Lived near there for three years. Nothing ever happened to me but my girlfriend was the victim of an attempted “push in” robbery or perhaps rape.” Yikes. Should mom bail out her daughter?


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  1. It is, but I wasn’t talking about Bushwick, I was talking about the notion that burglaries are always higher around projects than not.

    And why don’t you add burglary statistics to your citations? That is what rob was talking about.

    And btw rob I was much less a tourist in Paris than you seem to be here! And at the time my purse was stolen I was on my way back to work, and dressed for it, not as anything that could remotely be construed as a tourist.

    But from your definition, I guess we are all just tourists in life, aren’t we? And in the end we’re all going to have our cosmic purses snatched…

  2. Someone is already digging into crime stats because he seems to be pulling them out of his ass. My point was that not everyone on a corner is looking for trouble. I wasn’t nor were the majority of my friends.

    And WTF of course a bad environment is bad for your health. Oh and please stop bragging about jumping boxcars in a railyard. That would have been like summer camp to me.

  3. quote:

    If you are a 17 year old dude, you aren’t bringing your friends over to your cramped project apartment and watching TV in the living room with your mom and sister. so there really is no place else to go but the stoop or corner or front of the bodega

    how about school?

    *r*

  4. “Burglaries in 78th Precinct, week of 3/16 – 3/22: 7 (up from 4 last year) Housing projects in the 78th precinct: 0

    Burglaries in 84th Precinct, week of 3/16 – 3/22: 0 (down from 2 last year) Housing projects in 84 precinct: 1(Farragut Houses)”

    One week statistics are worthless. And isn’t Bushwick the 83rd precinct?

    2008 statistics (from http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/crime_prevention/crime_statistics.shtml):

    83rd Precinct
    Murder: 10
    Rape: 29
    Robbery: 449
    Felony assault: 369

    84th Precinct
    Murder: 1
    Rape: 4
    Robbery: 246
    Felony assault: 149

    78th Precinct
    Murder: 3
    Rape: 6
    Robbery: 149
    Felony assault: 70

  5. oh please like that girl isnt going to have an ipod, iphone, and laptop in her apartment? get real. i will stand by convinction that an apartment DEFINITELTY has a higher chance of being burgalarized near the projects. i have nothing against projects btw (i lived in them in jersey from 10 – 13 years old. it sucked living there and it was really embarrassing as a kid).

    *rob*

  6. Chosen – I totally understand where you are coming from. I know the rec rooms you speak of and they are in fact a sanctuary for many of the residents and it’s a shame they are usually closed due to budgets

    Sometimes,those ” bad men on the street corner” are just regular guys hanging out with their friends or neighbors shooting the $hit and sure they might goof on someone walking by which is infantile but they don’t mean real harm. If you are a 17 year old dude, you aren’t bringing your friends over to your cramped project apartment and watching TV in the living room with your mom and sister. so there really is no place else to go but the stoop or corner or front of the bodega

  7. do we really want to dig into the crime stats?

    thats another blog in and of itself.

    and chosen:

    kids will get into trouble urban or not. i remember getting chased by the local police while jumping boxcars in a railyard.

    but i was never lookin to start somethin with a neighbor. if that is the permanent environment, you lose. there may be an exception or two, but a look at the overall numbers will show that a bad environment is bad for your health.

  8. Most professional burglars avoid stealing in their own neighborhoods. In home buglaries have been steadily on the decline in all areas of NYC. There are spikes in Long Island. They prefer not to enter an unknown -in the PJ’s there just might be someone home all day or they might be recognized and in the Tony areas they have to bypass security systems. If someone does break into your home, it is more than likely someone that you know.

    These days the professionals have moved on to identity theft, credit card fraud and the like. Now push-in robbery, a violent crime, is something completely different and happens all over.

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