Brooklyn Bridge Park Plans Doomed?
The DEC is calling the current iteration of Brooklyn Bridge Park plans unacceptable, according to an article in today’s Post, which is almost certainly going to mean further delays for the two-decades-in-the-making project and send its budget soaring. The DEC says the plan, which calls for 12 acres of waterfront being set aside for water…
The DEC is calling the current iteration of Brooklyn Bridge Park plans unacceptable, according to an article in today’s Post, which is almost certainly going to mean further delays for the two-decades-in-the-making project and send its budget soaring. The DEC says the plan, which calls for 12 acres of waterfront being set aside for water sports uses and a marina, may harm marine life and the agency won’t issue a permit for the massive overhaul. Even without a redesign, Brooklyn Bridge Park costs are expected to be at least double the $150 million now budgeted for the project, according to Parks Commissioner Adrian Benepe. BBP foe Judi Francis says she’s not shocked by the news. “This plan has been bungled for so long that we shouldn’t be surprised that what this park is being promoted as – a park for beginning boaters – is in peril,” said Francis.
B’klyn Row a No-Go [NY Post]
Brooklyn Bridge Park: It’s a Go! [Brownstoner]
Drawing of plans for piers 2 and 3 from BBP Conservancy.
6:04, I’ll grant you some of that. Of course I was being a bit facetious, but why does everything have to cost billions of dollars? We’re moving into a time where these grandiose projects will not be able to be funded.
Do you think the Promenade cost a zillion dollars? No, but it works.
Nevertheless, the people that have spent their lives thinking about it maybe have forgotten where the money is coming from.
And about point three, I disagree. The West Side Greenway has plenty of highway noise issues yet it’s pretty packed. If people are buying those Furman Street condos, people are used to it.
I like noise. If I didn’t I’d move to Iowa.
I’m inclined to agree with the spirit of 6:38. Just open it up to the public, let us chill on the piers. Lay down a lil’ grass.
The days of easy money are over for the next decade at least. Time to rethink these things.
just a stupid plan to begin with. fuck kayacks and all that other water shit. just leave the area alone. we don’t need another battery park city.
Denton,
Off the top of my head, here are several reasons your “simple” $1 million idea won’t work:
1) It’s like 85 acres of land – no way you could cover 85 acres with just 1 million
2) Right now the piers have pier sheds built on them – just demolishing those is probably over $10 million – they are big and probably full of asbestos and lead paint.
3) Unlike Fulton Ferry park, this park has the BQE running right by it which makes alot of noise – if you don’t do something to block that noise (which the park plan goes to great lengths to deal with) you will not have a pleasant park and people will be calling you an idiot for generations to come
4)The park is built on piers that are over 50 years old and probably need maintenance like every other pier in the city due to the marine borers. Fulton Ferry is built on terra firma so it doesn’t have that problem. As you can imagine, marine work which requires divers and all that jazz gets pretty expensive pretty quickly. (by the way, this is another reason why parking on these piers in not such a great idea).
But why should those basic facts get in the way of you assuming that the 3 minutes you have spent thinking about it hasn’t produced a more feasible plan the one that has been worked on for years by scores of people who’ve spent their careers learning how to do something like this?
What is this “marine life” of which they speak? Three-eyed fish? Slugs? Come on!
Geez. Spend a million to cover it all with grass, like Flushing Meadow. Set up some bbq grills and some lwan chairs and be done with it. End of story. Like Fulton Ferry Park. Have some concerts at night. Why does everything have to cost $200 million?
Absolutely right… this won’t happen. What a pathetic waste of millions already spent.
3:36, you said it.
Spitzer is toast on a stick.
The plans for the park are even further dowm the toilet than they were before.
Sell the damn lots to developers and be done with it. Use the revenues to restore the Empire Stores. I am tired of looking at abandoned pier sheds and empty parking lots (while frantically looking for a place to park).
I like the idea of keeping a part of it as a community parking lot, that would be a really useful public amenity. Who gives a rat’s ass about kayaks. You wanna kayak? go to Florida.
The whole situation is a prime example of a
typical New York State, no can do, screw-up.
This park is going nowhere, now that Spitzer is toast
1:19 and 3:07 – The marina is NOT being subsidized. The private development is supporting the operating and maintenance budget of the park, not the marina.