Another Shooting on Grand and Putnam
[nggallery id=”21402″ template=galleryview] This is getting really old. In what seems to be an annual occurrence, there was another shooting on the corner of Grand and Putnam last night. The 88th Precinct won’t confirm a thing, but according to several people standing around on the corner this morning, a car drove by last night at…
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This is getting really old. In what seems to be an annual occurrence, there was another shooting on the corner of Grand and Putnam last night. The 88th Precinct won’t confirm a thing, but according to several people standing around on the corner this morning, a car drove by last night at around 10:30 and sprayed an empty parked car with bullets, and in the process hit a female “innocent bystander” in the leg. She was reportedly not killed but, as the photos show, she lost some blood; as you can also see, a number of bullet holes are visible in the side of the building. As most people in the neighborhood are aware, this corner has been a hotbed of illegal activity for years. Two summers ago, after a young man was murdered for saying something insulting about another man’s girlfriend, the block was put on lock-down for the summer, which did temporarily push the drug activity a block or two away—not exactly an ideal solution for the people who lived on those blocks. In the community meetings that always follow, the police act sympathetic and talk about how difficult it is to put drug dealers away, but at a certain point it all rings hollow. If this were happening on the Upper East Side, you can be sure it would have been shut down long ago.
Turning Up The Pressure on Grand and Putnam [Brownstoner]
Murder on Putnam: Will The Cops Show Up Now? [Brownstoner]
“12:50 – Police may be sworn to uphold the law – but that doesnt mean they are supposed to get killed doing it – and so it is only natural when they find themselves in perceived dangerous situations they are going to take action to protect themselves – which is legal!”
Cops aren’t SUPPOSED to get killed doing their jobs, but that is a RISK they take, which is what I said. When you become a cop (like my Dad, my next-door neighbor when we grew up in East new York, and several of my friends in college days did) you understand that you run the risk of getting shot at. Also, I never said it wasn’t legal for a cop to shoot at someone who he/she perceives to be a threat. That’s reasonable to expect.
I am not a cop – but you can keep saying I am if it makes you feel better…..
As for this statement:
“Try some better detective work and find out who is at the top of the food chain and target THOSE people. You cops simply haven’t done a good enough job of making cases against the right people.”
Do you have any idea how you “target the people at the top” – 1st you need the cooperation of the people underneath – and you get that by stopping, questioning and arresting them and then trying to ‘flip’ them. You cant just prosecute someone b/c “everyone in the community knows” he’s a bad guy. – BTW that whole “stop snitchin” thing really helps your “target the top” strategy.
“One goal was to make the force mirror the city it serves. Officials say that over the past five years, about 35 percent of applicants have been white, 28 percent Hispanic and 27 percent black — a breakdown nearly matching that of the city overall. A 2005 academy class became the first that was less than half white.”
Nice try. Police academy APPLICANTS are NOT working cops. And if your current stats are to be believed, more than 50% of the current force is WHITE.
guest at May 15, 2008 1:14 PM said:
“I wouldn’t care if I got frisked, if I were innocent of any crimes…”
You obviously haven’t been stopped and frisked. I have:
http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33704&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Hey landlord505, when you bought that building you knew the risk associated with that location.
OH BTW You are that racist bastard that wont rent to black people! Yeah we heard about you, I know some Brokers showing apartments in those building and when you found out they was black, you put the brakes on. Thru the grapevine you was renting to only to White people. The big building on Grand Ave you A-F!!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end…..
I love it when you throw a hand grenade!
12:50 – Police may be sworn to uphold the law – but that doesnt mean they are supposed to get killed doing it – and so it is only natural when they find themselves in perceived dangerous situations they are going to take action to protect themselves – which is legal!
And you know what – sometimes they make mistakes – but unless the mistake is completly ridiculous – it is not CRIMINAL – it might merit being fired, sued or what have you – but CRIMINAL laws are generally reserved for intentional acts or the the most ridiculous recklessness.
Therefore one reason “the community” might protest when cops get killed – is because doing so puts everyone at more risk – including the innocent.
landlord505 — i live in one of those four buildings and want to say that i (and others in my building, i think) appreciate what you’ve done… it did seem overkill at first, but they’re not intrusive, and from what you said, are effective. thanks for being active.
You know what would REALLY screw up this neighborhood is that gosh-darned Atlantic Yards project.
“LL505 – what can they do? They need a Search Warrant – to get that they need a cooperator – to get that you have to stop/frisk and arrest people who they believe are coming to buy drugs – except that gets them criticized.
Then if they get the warrant and anything goes wrong – they are blamed.
And if everything goes right and they get the warrant and make an arrest or 2, the drug dealers just setup shop in another apartment and the people who are arrested only face a 50/50 shot of getting any punishment anyway.”
Another cop making excuses. Try some better detective work and find out who is at the top of the food chain and target THOSE people. You cops simply haven’t done a good enough job of making cases against the right people. You’re content to reach for the low-hanging fruit and blame pay scales, community attitudes, the weather, and whatever else you can dig up to give you an “out.”
When I grew up in East New York in the 1970s and 1980s, the same guys were committing all of the trouble. These guys set up shop somewhere else because you guys target all the small fish – you can’t land the big one. Also, getting blamed when something goes wrong is part of ANY job! Try working in corporate America! That comes with the territory. Beign a cop is a difficult job. No one disputes that. So, it takes exceptional people to do that job. Unfortunately, we have too many excuse-makers like you on the force. Our loss.