Adding Tolls to Brooklyn Bridges?

Biff – who tried to put “it all on them” – and you are mixing my words and positions together as well.

I never said that the only reason why the cited attacks occurred was because we are non-believers. I said that the people who committed those acts beleived (and we know this because most of them left messages explaining their actions) that their killings of “innocents” were justified because they were non-believers.

As for why these same people (or others with a similar view) do not attack Canada, Sweden or Japan – I am sure that there are a plethora of reasons including that they are much more homogeneous (thereby making blending in much harder), and they are not the center of the western world (thereby making an attack less ‘impactful’). But there have been plenty of attacks by people of similar disposition on countries whose politics are far less agitating, human rights violating or aggressive then ours.

Again, no one is saying that we are innocent sitting ducks, or that “we shouldnt look at our own actions” – but that doesn’t mean that these perpetrators (and their leaders) aren’t intolerant, vicious killers motivated (even if partially) by religious tenets that promote/justify the killing of non-believers. Can’t both things be true????
Thats all I am saying.

Here are a couple of recommendations of documentaries I think are extremely powerful relating to this topic:

Why We Fight
Control Room
No End in Sight

LEARN THE RELIGION….NOT WHAT ‘MAN’ HAS MADE OF THE RELIGION.

I’m outta here.
Not because I’m defeated, but because of ignorance.

You know what, let’s charge every muslim crossing these bridges a terrorist tax…let those f*cking backward, primitive, extremists pay!

fsrg, this is my issue with your position. You’re claiming extremists attack the U.S. (using the four examples that affected New York) because we are not believers or based on the location of our residence or office (whatever that means)?? Then why aren’t they regularly attacking countries like Canada, Sweden, Japan, etc. etc.?? There are hundreds of countries that do not follow their religion that I’m sure the terrorists couldn’t care less about. This is why I’m insistant that we have to look at ourselves and what we have done to understand why they hate us and not try to put it all on them. We aren’t innocent, sitting ducks here; some kind of victim of others’ jealousy or anger for how we live or the religions we practice. We are aggressors and agitators and human rights violators who have brought most of this upon ourselves.

“CMU – with due respect, in both instincts above, the repression of women and stoning are cultural factors of the society and not based on religious belief.”

But they are justified as religious tenets – which is why I used the very specific term = “(form of) religion”