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The victim was arrested two days ago for threatening comments made on Twitter. Her “boyfriend” had assaulted her twice and had an Order of Protection against him.
“We have no impulse control and we are losing our sense of civility and responsibility towards each other.
Depressing.”
Very true, unfortunately enough. We also seem to be losing the sense of the sanctity of life. So someone disses you…you kill them? They accidentally scuff your sneakers, you kill them? They’ve got something you want, you take it and you kill them? You break up with someone, or they look at another person, or flirt with them, you kill them? Where does it end?
I don’t even know what to say, but I feel compelled to write something. I know that every generation thinks that the next one is worst. Maybe there is some truth to that, maybe we are witnessing the slow cumulative destruction of our species.
We have no impulse control and we are losing our sense of civility and responsibility towards each other.
Depressing.
Rob, this sounds like a serious magic daddy complex, entire religions have been built around that fantasy. I’m with crazypants, single moms are not the problem, and shouldn’t be short-hand for poverty. Poverty can be overcome, but that really shouldn’t be our goal for US children: “make it out of poverty alive!”
in any case, this conversation is not even relevant to this sad event. If she was killed by her ex, that’s nothing to do with single moms, poverty or Brooklyn. Domestic violence is the #1 killer for women in the US.
crazypants, while that is great you made it, many don’t. and yes i can name 1000s of people who turned out fine from single family households. i dont even mean that the mother and father need to be married, or even live in the same household! the fathers just need to BE there for the kids, and a lot of times in situations where kids get into trouble, they just aren’t. you can argue with me day and night about it, but i stand by belief in this
As a resident of Boerum Hill, my heart is heavy for this girl, her family, and our neighborhood. We could be better integrated, for sure. Better and warmer relationships between project and private residents wouldn’t stop these things, but maybe we could cushion the blow more than now. We are too much apart.
It is the culture of “being hard” that causes this. Dudes figure, I’ve got to be good, but when they screw up once, they go, I guess I’m not good, I guess I’m bad, so I’ll be as bad as I can possibly be, just to feel something.
i do!!!! Fathers need to man the *f* up and actually stick around!!!”
As an unmitigated mama’s boy raised by my single mom in Bushwick and ENY back in the day – that’s crap.
It doesn’t take a dad or strong paternal influence or whatever to instill in a kid – don’t shoot people. Don’t kill, don’t rob, don’t steal, don’t deal drugs and don’t hang out w/ other kids who do any of the above.
If that means that your childhood is spent mainly in school; homes of trusted family/friends, and you spend most of your time indoors watching tv or reading or just staring at the walls of your project apartment until you are old enough to get the hell out of the neighborhood – then that’s what you gotta do.
The victim was arrested two days ago for threatening comments made on Twitter. Her “boyfriend” had assaulted her twice and had an Order of Protection against him.
She may have been killed by someone she derided on Facebook. She had been arrested earlier for this.
http://tinyurl.com/34r3pyp
“We have no impulse control and we are losing our sense of civility and responsibility towards each other.
Depressing.”
Very true, unfortunately enough. We also seem to be losing the sense of the sanctity of life. So someone disses you…you kill them? They accidentally scuff your sneakers, you kill them? They’ve got something you want, you take it and you kill them? You break up with someone, or they look at another person, or flirt with them, you kill them? Where does it end?
I don’t even know what to say, but I feel compelled to write something. I know that every generation thinks that the next one is worst. Maybe there is some truth to that, maybe we are witnessing the slow cumulative destruction of our species.
We have no impulse control and we are losing our sense of civility and responsibility towards each other.
Depressing.
Rob, this sounds like a serious magic daddy complex, entire religions have been built around that fantasy. I’m with crazypants, single moms are not the problem, and shouldn’t be short-hand for poverty. Poverty can be overcome, but that really shouldn’t be our goal for US children: “make it out of poverty alive!”
in any case, this conversation is not even relevant to this sad event. If she was killed by her ex, that’s nothing to do with single moms, poverty or Brooklyn. Domestic violence is the #1 killer for women in the US.
crazypants, while that is great you made it, many don’t. and yes i can name 1000s of people who turned out fine from single family households. i dont even mean that the mother and father need to be married, or even live in the same household! the fathers just need to BE there for the kids, and a lot of times in situations where kids get into trouble, they just aren’t. you can argue with me day and night about it, but i stand by belief in this
*rob*
As a resident of Boerum Hill, my heart is heavy for this girl, her family, and our neighborhood. We could be better integrated, for sure. Better and warmer relationships between project and private residents wouldn’t stop these things, but maybe we could cushion the blow more than now. We are too much apart.
It is the culture of “being hard” that causes this. Dudes figure, I’ve got to be good, but when they screw up once, they go, I guess I’m not good, I guess I’m bad, so I’ll be as bad as I can possibly be, just to feel something.
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I don’t have an easy answer for a fix
i do!!!! Fathers need to man the *f* up and actually stick around!!!”
As an unmitigated mama’s boy raised by my single mom in Bushwick and ENY back in the day – that’s crap.
It doesn’t take a dad or strong paternal influence or whatever to instill in a kid – don’t shoot people. Don’t kill, don’t rob, don’t steal, don’t deal drugs and don’t hang out w/ other kids who do any of the above.
If that means that your childhood is spent mainly in school; homes of trusted family/friends, and you spend most of your time indoors watching tv or reading or just staring at the walls of your project apartment until you are old enough to get the hell out of the neighborhood – then that’s what you gotta do.