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Three different readers sent us the link to the Lefferts Manor limestone being sold sans broker. While the owners may not have the web design skills and marketing savvy of the Fizzbows, we still like their independent and enterprising spirit. Will buyers like the $930,000 price tag? We’ll see. Here’s what one of the tipsters had to say: “This house is in a pristine row of limestones in the historically landmarked district in single family only Lefferts Manor. It seems like a good price for the area (there are homes sold for over $1 million now).” Curious? You can check out the open house this Sunday from 1 to 3 pm. Address: 156 Maple Street between Bedford and Rogers.
Limestone for Sale [156 Maple Street] GMAP


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  1. Lefferts Manor seems to be quite a lightening rod in these forums. Frankly, it seems white folk can’t seem to make sense of how some of Brooklyn’s cleanest, prettiest brownstones can exist in such good form in an area that is so black.

  2. Want to talk about overvalued communities? Look no further than Park Slope!! $3.5m for a four story brownstone that sold for $1.75 four years ago?? Give me a break! Wait until Ratner’s stadium gets built and brings along the drug dealers, scalpers and muggers. Home values are going to plummet! Even better, wait until the local hoodrat discovers that robbing a convenience store and netting a paltry $175 is a far riskier proposition than sticking up small frail woman in ritzy Brownstone Brooklyn for a $25,000 (3.25 ct, F, VS1)engagement ring! When that happens, run for the hills Forrest – RUN!!

  3. Nativegal you sound great! Part of the reason I took my apartment in PLG was because of the stares my boyfriend and I got on a regular basis as an interracial couple on the Lower East Side from the mostly white and asian people living there. When he was alone there it was obvious that the elderly asian people especially were afraid of him (and he is a well-groomed, well-dressed professional, definitely not threating!).

    I still have my apartment there, and divide my time between the two, but the difference is palpable.

    And I never advocated being polite to people shouting racial epithets at you, but on the other hand it doesn’t help to walk by with your nose in the air not speaking to anyone.

    PLG is a pretty good neighborhood as it, but is has the potential to be great — if it retains its current community character and mix of backgrounds, races, and income levels. I would hate for it to become as unaffordable and homogenous as some other gentrified Brooklyn neighborhoods (kudos to Ft Greene and Clinton Hill in this repsect — they seem to have kept a better balance than Park Slope).

    And if you feel conspicuous and uncomfortable because of your appearance, just think that this is how African Americans feel 90% of the time. And people who aren’t familiar of whites have stereotypes and misconceptions about them too.

  4. I agree with you Anon 5.52. My point is I do not have a lot of tolerance for those who treat others with disrespect or threats of violence. Of course the world is not perfect, but I don’t think our communities should excuse that behavior. Explaining why someone is a jerk doesn’t excuse their behavior and belittles those of us, myself included, who came up from very humble beginnings and don’t behave that way.

  5. I’m not saying that the fear of “thugs” is not real or that in a perfect world we should be able to hurtle insults back and not feel the threat of physical violence, but sometimes I feel we as americans sometimes expect everything to be perfect. The world isn’t perfect and not any of us are free of guilt of why it is the way it is. Not everybody gets the same start in life and I think its hypocritical of anybody to expect another to respond to situations in a similar manner. You don’t know their story and he doesn’t know yours. My point is bad things happen sometimes and maybe they shouldn’t in a perfect world, but hey that’s life. Until the world is fair and equitable there will be violence, jealously, anger, etc. Keep some perspective and you will all be alot happier.

  6. Where were your applause when Gardensgal touted the virtues of living in Prospect-Lefferts Garden?

    See that was the point of her post.

    There are plenty applause when the negatives of PLG are raised for discussion; however when the positives that balance out the equation are brought up, they are summarily dismissed. The reality of my less-than 3yrs living in PLG has been pretty “peachy-perfect”. Sorry if that disappoints you.

    Because of the economic diversity & the mix of housing in PLG my daughter is growing up with her grandmother, aunts, uncles and cousins no more than 5blocks away. My neighbors are the types that invite my 2yo to their 7yo granddaughter’s birthday party. Speaking of birthday parties, with a neighborhood playgroup of more than 20 families, my daughter has a better social life than her parents. We do try to keep up with our “Mom’s Nights Out”, various neighborhood bbqs, cocktail & dinner parties. Being able to walk home along our tree-lined streets is one of the best parts.

    I’m truly feel for the family that experience the racial incident, since as an inter-racial couple, it was in an effort to avoid exactly that, which caused us to choose PLG as our home. We have had racial incidents, but they’ve all been of a mostly positive nature. Like when my white husband ( who looks like he’s about 12yo)started taking our daughter for nightly 10pm walks to get her to sleep, some of the neighbors on Lefferts Ave. were afraid that he was raising her alone and offered their assistance. Or when the few times I accompanied him on these walks, a young man came up to us and thanked us for being out & about in the neighborhood with our child. He said that he was bi-racial and that it made him happy to see us just walking around and enjoying our family and the neighborhood. On another nightly walk, a man stopped traffic on Bedford Ave to tell us what a beautiful baby we had. He added that he was the product of an inter-racial relationship as well and directed us to wave at his puzzled looking parents in the car behind him. The one negative was when a black man refuse to give me some neighborhood info for my much lighter-looking child, because he didn’t believe she was mine.

    I have a 20min commute to work on public transportation. My family has not been the victim of any crimes. My daughter is zoned for a very good public school. And my family is able to avail itself of the shocking amount of amenities the neighborhood offers.

    Yes all in all, my life in PLG has been “peachy-perfect” so far. Excuse me while I go knock upside your head, er, I mean on wood.

  7. Also, as far as fear of “thugs” (whatever race) goes, it is real if people are verbally and physically threatened by them. To try to condone disrespectful, threatening or even violent behavior by someone, and call those who complain about it racist, or a sell out or buppie is the real problem.

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