The Times Gets Hot for Bay Ridge
The Times was giving it up for Bay Ridge this weekend. The theme of the piece was that more and more folks from Park Slope and Manhattan are waking up to the relative value (30-40% cheaper) available in the traditionally working class nabe. Along with the expansive waterfront looking out over New York Harbor and…
The Times was giving it up for Bay Ridge this weekend. The theme of the piece was that more and more folks from Park Slope and Manhattan are waking up to the relative value (30-40% cheaper) available in the traditionally working class nabe. Along with the expansive waterfront looking out over New York Harbor and Downtown Manhattan, the lovely limestone houses are the main attraction. One couple moving from Toronto recently picked one up on 78th Street for $845,000. The article rightly notes that a similar house in Brownstone Brooklyn would easily fetch $500,000 more. (Sherman Street in Windsor Terrace pops to mind as an interesting comp.) All in all, two big thumbs up from the Grey Lady, with the only complaint being the somewhat limited parking.
More for the Money [NY Times]
In response to:
“the overall culture of BR residents and businesses is overwhelmingly conservative and blue collar.”
That’s total bull. Bay Ridge is a very large area geographically. Whoever made this comment has not visited the area in its entirety.
Many blocks in the two posh enclaves of the Bay Ridge area: Harborview Terrace and Dyker Heights have mansions selling for over 2 million. Many ivy league graduates, private schooled professional live there.
For example look at Brooklyn Heights: Columbia Heights is very different from Court St.
Park Slope: Montgomery Pl is extremely different from 4th Ave. If you only saw 4th Ave/Court St. you would have a misperception of Park Slope/Brooklyn Heights.
What is the issue with blue collar anyway? Not all blue collar professionals are uneducated or lacking class. Do you know how much contractors get paid?
My 15,000 bathroom and 25,000 kitchen sure is making someone well-off.
You could also have completely left out that sentence and your point would have been made, no? I don’t live in either Park Slope or Bay Ridge, so I have no reason to twist things out of context…
“BR is not only Blue Collar. Bay Ridge has a lower middle, middle and upper income/asset classes. Even the Upper East Side has residents in a range of income/asset class. 5th Av/Park are completely different than York Av.”
While the above comment may be true, the overall culture of BR residents and businesses is overwhelmingly conservative and blue collar. I dare say that is not the case in UES.
“You couldn’t pay me to live there” was intended as an expression of personal preference, not an insult. It would have been an insult if I had not also gone on to say that I “could appreciate that it is an excellent choice of many others.”
Read the entire message. Anything can be twisted by taking it out of context.
Actual address: 227 87 St Brooklyn, 11209
from NYTimes AD. I checked the width on Propertyshark and it is indeed 20ft wide.
“you couldn’t pay me to live there” is pretty inflamatory in my book.
you can argue for/against anything without making disparaging comments either way, that’s all i’m saying.
that being said, and to get back on topic–i’d chose the limestone over the co-op for the sole reason that i’d prefer not to have someone living above me. but, if you don’t work a regular 9-5 job and your commute is a lot longer, this would cut into your family time (which is paramount in my opinion).
Very good point about the use of the term “diverse” to describe neighborhoods…
The Bay Ridge neighborhood.
BR is a very large area spanning from 65th St to 100th St.
There are several areas within that vary architecturally and economically.
limestone/brick row houses, large suburban homes (some mansions), low rise coops.
The commute to Manhattan may be 15 to 20 minutes longer. Fortunately most houses have driveways and garages.
Bay Ridge does have major assets (1)Shore Road Park/Owls head Park: a massive waterfront park with bike path. (2) 3rd Ave a thriving commercial street with many restaurants.
One major advantage of this community is that it remained stable during the period when most of downtown and north Brooklyn became a rundown crack infested impoverished area.
There are no abandon buildings…absolutely no housing projects…and no crack smoking knife welding people.
As for Bay Ridge’s segregation being a negative I think that’s actually quite funny. There is diversity in Bay Ridge: European, Med/Middle Eastern, and Asian.
When areas are predominately white/European in NYC people say they are segregated. When areas are predominately Black or Hispanic people claim that those areas are diverse. Diversity means multiple groups not a sprinkle, and not just the presence of Black and Hispanic people.
When I go to BedStuy or say Sunset Park I do on occasion see a white, Asian or Middle Eastern person but let’s be honest BedStuy is more segregated than Bay Ridge.
There are areas in Brooklyn that area all white European Bay Ridge is not one of them.
BR is not only Blue Collar. Bay Ridge has a lower middle, middle and upper income/asset classes. Even the Upper East Side has residents in a range of income/asset class. 5th Av/Park are completely different than York Av.
Regarding the actually house on 78th St. A driveway or garage is a must in this area. Buyers almost always want private parking. Without this the price and time on the market are greatly hurt.
Good point, but the last poster was stating things that are true about Bay Ridge, whereas some of the other posters are just being inflammatory and saying Park Slope is so over, or it is “Dirt Slope” etc. Bay Ridge is blue collar, it is conservative, it does not have the amenities of some other Brooklyn neighborhoods, it is further from Manhattan. That said, it is a nice neighborhood and it does depend on your preferences for what is most important to you.