Exterior Window rust and gap problem

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I just noticed this from the exterior window frame. I was advised that I should fill the gap up (1/3 inch) and then paint over the rust. Anyone know what would cause this metal piece to rust and create a gap?

namahs

in Doors & Windows 13 years and 7 months ago

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Aodrafting | 13 years and 7 months ago

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I agree with Steve, caulking the gap will trap water. The gap between the brick and the lintel supporting the brick over an opening (door or window) should be clear of any and all material including caulking and mortar. Any water behind the lintel can weep out. If there is mortar between there,  then you should see weeps holes along the span. Good Luck.

citigyz | 13 years and 7 months ago

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Absolutely use morter cement. Caulk is a bad idea. Steve is correct

stevecym | 13 years and 7 months ago

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Do not use caulk to fill the gap. Do not ever run caulk in a horizontal position on any brick work. By running caulk horizontally on brick work and in some cases on wood work, you run this risk of water leaking in from above and running down and getting trapped behind the caulk. it can build up in there and it will freeze and it will damage the brick work (and can cause rot in woodwork). Steve http://brownstoner.staging.wpengine.com/tinkerswagon

namahs | 13 years and 7 months ago

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Thanks for the advice. I was not sure if I should fill the gap with mortar mix or caulk..I guess caulk it is =)

daveinbedstuy | 13 years and 7 months ago

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And use a good quality exterior, paintable caulk to fill the gap.   Welcome to home ownership.

jockdeboeraia | 13 years and 7 months ago

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Linels need to be regularly painted or they are going to rust. Do not paint over rust, strip the rust, prime the steel and then paint. Repeat the rest of your life or as long as you own the building.