odd discoloration on recently resurfaced stoop

We had our out-of-shape stoop resurfaced last fall. In the last few weeks we started noticing these white patches on the inside corners and in recent days it seems to have started to progress over the steps. At first I thought it may be all the salt we doused over the gnarly winter – gave it a good rinse and after a week it remains and appears to be getting worse. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

papersix

in Facade and Brownstone Repair 10 years and 2 months ago

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papersix | 10 years and 2 months ago

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It was done in the early fall so maybe the mix wasn’t quite right? Will post an update once our contractor takes a look!

papersix | 10 years and 2 months ago

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Thanks everyone for their thoughts on the mystery patches! We got hold of our contractor who will be coming by this Friday for a closer look. I am guessing this may be efflorescence as thetinkerswagon pointed out. Will see if the contractor suggests a way to fix this that doesnt call for a complete re-do.

BobMarvin | 10 years and 2 months ago

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I don’t know if your use of salt caused the problem, but AFAIK it’s generally not recommended to use any type of salt on new concrete for the first year. Sand or plain (non-clumping) cat litter will prevent slipping on ice, although they do make a mess and are hard to clean up.

thetinkerswagon | 10 years and 2 months ago

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google this word: **efflorescence**

no-permits | 10 years and 2 months ago

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i’m no expert with this, but it almost looks like it has lost its coloring. it seems like a permanent problem to me. call the contractor back to look.

BSDOD | 10 years and 2 months ago

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Maybe it’s moisture and minerals drying out of the underlying stone….perhaps the new surface doesn’t let it breathe so easily.

workisfun | 10 years and 2 months ago

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I think it has something to do with the mix. Was the stoop redone in the winter? I see it around town not infrequently. Hopefully a mason will chime in here.