Sprinkler System and Two family Dwelling
Good morning all, is a sprinkler system required by the DOB for a two family? Thanks in advance!

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in Brownstoner Renovation 13 years ago
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sescroggie | 12 years and 8 months ago
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Hi – We are looking to do the same – move the top floor rental in a 3 story/2 family townhouse to the garden floor. In the end, was a sprinkler required for your job? We are getting mixed answers from the various architects that we are talking with. Thanks.

AnArchitect | 13 years ago
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Its not a change of use/occupancy , then you’re filing an Alt 2? If so you should be ok w/o spk, but I’ll defer to your architect. Best luck.

AnArchitect | 13 years ago
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If you are changing the CO you will likely have to add sprinkler unless you can prove the home used to be a 2 family at some point in its history. If the property is on a wide street then you meet a Fire Department exception which gives you better position with DoB on seeking a waiver to the requirement. You may also try to only sprinkler the tenant unit, which might be accomplished by pulling heads off the domestic and save you sme money. Best – www.agenciegroup.com

housepoor | 13 years ago
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While the OP didn’t say anything about reonvations on the building, I thought that if you are changing the use in any way — say going from a 3/4 family to a 2 family — then the DOB will require spinklers. Maybe some of the architects can chime in here?

stevecym | 13 years ago
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Not for a two family. Steve