Garage Roof
I need advice on a garage roof issue. The original garage built in 1958 had a concrete/cement roof which eventually collapsed. The garage is attached to a brick multi-dwelling building. Do i need to replace the roof with like materials or can i use wood joists, plywood and rubber roofing? Thank you.
I need advice on a garage roof issue. The original garage built in 1958 had a concrete/cement roof which eventually collapsed. The garage is attached to a brick multi-dwelling building. Do i need to replace the roof with like materials or can i use wood joists, plywood and rubber roofing?
Thank you.
Jim Hill,
While I would tend to agree with you about the “pot and Kettle” statement, by siting its origins does not exclude it from potentially racist statements. Have met many people who would passionately continue that discussion with you. I am not one of them.
That aside, your response was classic diversion from what we were talking about. My teenage son does it all the time.
Is it really helpful for an architect to say an architect “must” be hired before all of the relevant information is known? I see that almost daily on this site. My “snide” remark is a result of those type of posts from architects.
I will extend an apology if you felt personally insulted. There is the point where perception out weighs intent.
Mr. Pig,
As far as potentially racist comments go, this is not one of them:
The pot calling the kettle black
Meaning
The notion of a criticism a person is making of another could equally well apply to themself.
Origin
This phrase originates in Cervantes’ Don Quixote, or at least in Thomas Shelton’s 1620 translation – Cervantes Saavedra’s History of Don Quixote:
“You are like what is said that the frying-pan said to the kettle, ‘Avant, black-browes’.”
The first person who is recorded as using the phrase in English was William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania, in his Some fruits of solitude, 1693:
“For a Covetous Man to inveigh against Prodigality… is for the Pot to call the Kettle black.”
Shakespeare had previously expressed a similar notion in a line in Troilus and Cressida, 1606:
“The raven chides blackness.”
Perhaps we should eliminate the word “black” from our vocabulary entirely, or many of the other names for colors, or maybe even the word “color” as that can also be used with racial overtones.
As for trolling for work, you might notice that I included engineers as professionals who could file for such work. If a potential client came to me with this situation, I would (and have in similar cases) recommended the client save some money and hire an engineer directly.
My intention, and legal obligation as a licensed architect, is to point out where I think the situation requires a licensed professional. It still seems that the consensus here is exactly that. If a person is going to replace an entire steel and concrete roof, that person would probably need to file with the DOB, and that filing would require a licensed professional. I would, however, suggest to the OP that he/she check with a knowledgeable expediter to make sure.
Now, I would much rather be accused of trolling for work than to sit back and post snide, unhelpful comments about others who are trying to help this community by providing advice to those who ask for it. Quoth the pig: “jockdeboeraia bahahahahaha”.
I never once said to do the work without a permit or illegally. That is the issue I have with the architects that post on this site. They all would have you believe otherwise. No architect = no permit or illegal. Simply not true in all cases. Permits can be obtained without architects. There is a lot of work that does not even require a permit. Owners can GC work on their own house without any sort of license. NY does not require a license for General Contractors. And yes, as stated in this post, even the DOB tries to tell those who wish to do this – it is not possible. They will make it difficult, but it is possible and legal.
And, Jim Hill, as far as the potentially racist statement of the “pot & Kettle” – if I were some sort of professional advising the OP that they needed to hire a professional in my field (which equates to trolling for work) then you might have a point. But I am not, did not, so you don’t.
You cannot do it without a permit. no. only work which is considered ordinary repairs are aloowed without a permit.
No problem, here is a good roofer to call:
Dennis dcnrc@optonline.net
Thank You Jock for your insight. It is appreciated.
the reason i didn’t ask about the cost is because i know that a concrete slab will end up being more expensive than a joist and ply construction. I wanted to see what the code will accept.
maxsdad, you never asked about the cost. I’d start with 4-5 bids from roofing contractors…search here if you can’t get any other recommendations.
I’m sure some of these architects can recommend someone.
Wow, that is a bit of animosity for a thursday morning :).
Thank You all for your responses. I am planning on doing this project by the books, not only because it makes life a bit simpler but also because there is a DOB violation on it. My post was to assist me in trying to figure out the cost of the project.