My wife and I currently own a nice 2 bedroom Condo in Clinton Hills, We love the neighborhood. We are expecting our second child and we are dealing with a lack of space. We currently can only afford a nice Brownstone in Stuyvesant Heights if we sale our Condo. But we lose the amenities as well as the public School system in Clinton Hills. Which one Brownstoner- A Clinton Hills 2 Bedroom or a Stuyvesant Heights Brownstone?


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  1. i have one rule in buying in big cities – never buy around ghetto black people. bed stuy sucks.

    i wouldn’t have bought in clinton hill either though for the same reason.

  2. I agree, with those that would stay in CH. With children you have to be leary of picking up and moving just because the house is cheaper. I grew up in Brooklyn as well and definately agree that Bed Stuy is tsill spotty with a long way to go.

    As far as the schools, though some may disagree, Clinton Hill schools are getting much better as the parents start to get involved and more zone kids start to enroll and they are definately much better than those schools in Bed Stuy. That is a big factor I think.

  3. What a dilemma.

    I agree that if we are heading into a recession Bed-stuy/SH will be hit much harder then CH.

    The schools in CH, in my opinion are better and safer then the schools in Bed-Stuy/SH.

    Now with that said, as a parent I know space can be tough with 2 kids…but I would stay in CH. Who knows you may not even be able to sell your condo in this market.

    AClintonHillLady

  4. Very real question. I too have a child on the way and a 4 yr old in PS.20, which is a very good school by the way. Maybe for those who have older children, Clinton Hill schools aren’t the best. But this school has made significant strides to better the education and overall experience for the children. I love it for my boy. Once you have a kid that’s in, you can bring the other regardless if you are in the zone or not. So you don’t have to give up the school.

    At the ebnd of the day, you can’t take your bed-stuy house and move it to CH. SO think long and hard about a neighborhood change. I love freshdirect, the local parks, the fact that CH and FG are walking neighborhoods with great diversity and things to do. It costs more to be here because of those things. I decided to stay. We will look for a 3 bedroom here or bite the bullet and take on a size mortgage. I want to be happy and I know it’s more affordable to be in Bed-Suy. But, if it was just me and my wife, I’ll do it. But the neighborhood is spotty, especially after Stuyvesant going east. I grew up in Crown heights and Brooklyn was a different place at the time. I want my kids to have better and growing up around a diverse community is important. No other area beats out CH to me. Find what’s most important to you.

  5. Yeah, well, you can also find difficult neighbors in already-come-up neighborhoods, as many a coop owner, and even their next door neighbors, can tell you…

  6. When we were trying to figure out what to do, stay or sell, house or another condo, we figured this: if we stayed or bought another condo just a little bigger, we’d be moving again in 5 years. Yuck! Moves are so hard. We thought let’s find a long-term home. And we ventured into a house in an historic area that has plenty upper income homeowners but which is not on the approved list of fancy neighborhoods. Now we’re so glad we did, because the investment in the house wasn’t so huge that we’re nervous about the market and economy. We can ride it out fine. And ultimately I think that’s something key to think about, is if you buy the house can you do it with a loan that isn’t too huge once you sell your condo. One word of advice, visit the house at all hours of the day and on weekends. You want to make sure you don’t have kooky or loud neighbors. Sadly, in up-and-coming neighborhoods you will find difficult neighbors here and there.

  7. Bensonhurst is not an option. As to those who think this is a fake forum, thats a pic of my apt on the right. The brownstone on the left, a friend of mines owns in Jefferson ave.
    I find it amazing that “people” that have never or could have never even walk through Clinton Hill or Bed stuy all of a sudden think this is their neighborhood. They have the nerve to even correct a person on their spelling. I hate that, get a life.
    But overall I know that a nice size Brownstone in a quiet block in Stuyvesant Heights is better living then being cramped in an apt in Clinton Hill.

  8. I have a hard time thinking of Bensonhurst as the poster community for diversity. Sorry.

    A house with some rental income coming in trumps a condo, in my book. More work, certainly, but for the long haul, worth it. I don’t believe the doomsayers about most of Bed Stuy. The areas that are very desireable – along the A train corridor, especially, will not decrease in value, no matter what happens. Most of those blocks are chock full of old time home owners who own the houses outright, or the houses have recently been bought by people well able to afford them. These are stable blocks that will stand the test of economic fluctuations. They survived worse than that and came out intact.

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