Wednesday Links
Federal Retreat on Bigger Loans Rattles Housing [NY Times] Controversial Takeover of MetroTech BID Approved [NY Post] Rooftop Films Lands a New Role [WSJ] Report: Rents Up in Bed-Stuy [BS Patch] Fewer Geese in Prospect Park [BK Paper] CB1 Supports OSA Concerts [Brooklyn 11211]
Federal Retreat on Bigger Loans Rattles Housing [NY Times]
Controversial Takeover of MetroTech BID Approved [NY Post]
Rooftop Films Lands a New Role [WSJ]
Report: Rents Up in Bed-Stuy [BS Patch]
Fewer Geese in Prospect Park [BK Paper]
CB1 Supports OSA Concerts [Brooklyn 11211]
Like I said above before the non-Broooklyn based renter insisted otherwise.
Bed-stuy: I usually see the sales backward, after they get listed at $400-500K I can see the sales 6 months to a year earlier for 200K-300K (or sometimes less, I saw 10K once, and it looked like an arm’s length, legitimate sale on ACRIS.)
Anyway, with the clarification it makes more sense if it’s per unit. The very low sales do happen, but they’re out of REO/foreclosures. By the time they are listed they’re usually higher.
The cheapest house in Bed-Stuy right I can find now is 31 Sumpter St, listed at $225,000. In past months, I’ve seen listings as low as $199,000. 368 Marion just sold for 201K, and looking at houses now kinda fixed up, I can see sales around 170-185K last year (of course, no guarantee they were vacant then.) A 2-family on Madison, with rent-roll of $2,500/mo. just sold for 305K.
My recommendation, if you are serious is to go on Zillow, and search by zip for multi-family, and sort low-to-high price. You’ll see the same realtors, and I bet if you keep at it, there are great investment opportunities.
Just checked back on the Bed Stuy patch website, they now have a clarifiaction of the numbers from the Furman Center. http://bed-stuy.patch.com/articles/recent-report-finds-home-sales-in-bed-stuy-dropped-rents-increased
Caitlyn Brazill
4:01pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
The report gives median price per unit. So the median price for a 2-4 family home would be 2-4 times the per unit price, depending on the size of the property. The actual median price for a 2-4 family home in Bedford-Stuyvesant is $400,000.
Thanks, and glad to see our data sparking dialogue.
Caitlyn Brazill, NYU Furman Center for Real Estate and Urban Policy
Maly-
My sister has been actively looking for a place in Bed Stuy for the past year.
NOTHING is less than $200,000. Dibs and Mopar are right; the majority of homes sell for $300,000 on the low end to $800,000 on the high end. Even if you look on zillow, you will find that that is true. One of zillow’s main flaws is that they don’t distinguish coop and condo sales from the 1 – 4 families when you look for comps (nor do they identify refinancing/ heloc transactions, or family transfers properly). But even with that, the math wouldn’t work to bring the average down to under $200,000.
If anyone can point me in the direction of a 1-4 family in bed stuy for less than $200,000 please do (No Joke)
Hey, it’s not like real estate transactions are public records or anything like that. You’ve got to be on the street to know.
Good point, Dave. I think I will go find a Detroit blog and comment on it.
By mopar on May 11, 2011 2:05 PM
There must be something wrong with these numbers
mopar, are you nuts???? Why would you and I know anything about these numbers?
Maly pasted last year that she’s finally going to move to brooklyn and rent in BoCoCa somewhere. Obviously she knows more than we do.
There must be something wrong with these numbers. Maybe they are included apartments even though they say 2 to 3 family houses. Three-story houses in good condition in non-landmarked areas of Bed Stuy go for about $500,000. Houses in need of serious renovation go for about $400,000. Those that are uninhabitable and cannot get financing go for about $300,000.
In any case, be that as it may, I agree with the overall conclusion of Bed Stuy Patch: House prices have gone down in the last year while rent prices *in the landmarked areas* have gone up. This is based on sales and houses for sale I am familiar with, as well as discussion on this blog as to what is fair market rent now in Stuy Heights. It’s definitely higher than it was in 2008 when we were looking. That may reflect the fancy new amenities there.
benson, you’re right, the system is rigged. Can’t do anything about it quickly as both of you guys have said. Remember, it’s run by politicians.