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  1. cmu, biff- I was at union hall this week. Heavy-set African American bouncer, very nice. Didn’t ask either myself or my friend for id. Perhaps they are carding only men? Maybe it’s just up to each individual bouncer re carding people obviously of drinking age,and you got someone with an attitude.

  2. Thanks cmu, I didn’t mean to “out” you with respect to your own background but thanks for sharing. Hopefully you won’t be turned off going back there as it’s a great hangout, but I would certainly understand it if you were hesitant to do so.

  3. cmu, thanks for the insight. Ok, we’re on the same page regarding the carding.

    Since you mentioned you’re non-white, for full disclosure, do you care to mention whether or not the doorman was? Otherwise, there’s still an implication you were discriminated against based on skin color. As for my own experiences, I’m Caucasian, have been to Union Hall twice and both times was carded by the same young, heavy-set African American bouncer sitting on the stool at the door. Both times I found the bouncer very nice and we had pleasant conversations that were much lengthier than the typical conversations I’ve had with bouncers at New York bars. That’s why I was surprised to read the story.

    Regardless, it’s very unfortunate that the incident occurred; there was no reason for it to go that far. And there was absolutely no reason for him to get physical with you if you posed no threat to anybody else there.

  4. Incidentally, that was me, so I can speak (one-sidedly you may say,) to the issue.

    It was not the blanket carding that’s the issue, it was the attitude of the doorman. I do think it’s a little ridiculous to card me (Biff, underagers trying to get in don’t look over twice the drinking age, common sense may sometimes be applied,) but that was his job (and I even said even after he told me I couldn’t get in.)

    I was neither rude, belligerent nor drunk, I was just being a little silly (to overuse the word.) The doorman did not like my saying anything at all, and acted on it, and I do wonder whether my ratty T-shirt and being non-white affected the issue, which, btw, I rarely think.

    While I over-reacted too, by the time he grabbed me I was pissed, but even then not visibly.

  5. Blanket carding helps everyone. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen underage blankets trying to pull the wool over the doorman’s eyes and fleece the bouncers! It used to be quite a problem at Polly Esthers.

  6. No Biff…I actually agree with you…the blanket carding is not a problem. I think any bar owner has a right to blanket card everyone.

    There’s probably more to that story than the writer has alluded to.