Police Up The Ante At The Lefferts Hotel
Why was there a police car stationed in front of the Lefferts Hotel all weekend? Click here to find out.
Why was there a police car stationed in front of the Lefferts Hotel all weekend? Click here to find out.
I have to disagree that unless I live on Lefferts, then my opinion does not matter. I live in Brooklyn, so a Brooklyn issue is relevant to me. Surely, no one would argue that only people who actually live on Atlantic Avenue are entitled to hold an opinion about the Atlantic Yards proposal.
atriss.
wow – 11.00 you really are quite an open minded sort. and I live on Lefferts and both my and his opinion do matter. Im sorry to say you have not won anyone over that you thought you had. I guess we should beg to differ and move on
Unless Atriss lives on Lefferts then his opinion does not really matter since the satisfied residents of Lefferts couldn’t care less about his views on gentrification. Atriss is free to move to any community that appeals to his need to have flop houses and drug dealers within walking distance. Sorry, Atriss but Clinton Hill is not for you or anyone else who shares his morally bankrupt values. In Clinton Hill, we don’t romanticize poverty, crime and the abuse of women.
actually, im 10.21 and I didn’t stop posting and I happen to agree with Atriss and still feel there’s a lot of Johnny come lately’s that feel they have the right to stick there faces in a lot of other people business, so 10.35, I actually have not changes my position at all. And if you re-read my post – I have no objection to the action taken against the hotel…it obviously was a crime den but I was taking issue with a broader mindset of some people who take a very selfish view of “what this neighborhood needs”.
Anon 10:40. You say that you agree with Atriss. Okay, on what?
I happen to agree with atriss and his posts weren’t baiting – they were really well put. Brownstoner – I cant believe you cut off his posts – if you’re going to try and start a media entity a la Nick Denton you may need to brush up on your journo ethics
Atriss, that’s our exact point. Anon 10:21 erroneously assumed, as you did, that gentrifiers had led the charge on the hotel. However, unlike you, Anon 10:21 had the common sense to end the diatribe on gentrification once corrected. You, on the other hand, continued to rant senselessly about the subject matter irrespective of what was being communicated to you on this board.
And Putnam-Denizen, I guess the idea of the retreat to gated communities being better/worse, is a matter of perspective. Better or worse for whom? Sometimes I suspect a lot of people would be far happier moving to gated communities. I also suspect many areas would benefit from this easing of pressure on the market. Does an area like Clinton Hill (nee Bed-Stuy) really benefit from the presence of yuppies? That is a highly contentious topic at best. That is one real issue that was, at least for a time, being discussed on this thread. Excuse me if in the process of debating this point I’ve obscured the grassroots neighborhood clean-up issue.
atriss
Look there are several issues being discussed simultaneaously on this thread. I applaud the grassroots, community-driven effort to clean up one’s own neighborhood. Putnam-Denizen, I also appreciate your last points about fast food, etc. However, I don’t completely see why my comments are so “nonsensical” as B-stoner put it. I entered this conversation about halfway in and there were already several posters making points just like anon 10:21:
“Its been shut down as of this morning from what I can tell. I am no fan of that hotel but there is something a little distasteful about the aggressiveness with which this little army of new, holier-than-thou homeowners are setting about to “Cobble Hill-ize” this neighborhood. When I moved here I made up my mind to mind my own business in a neighborhood that clearly has been through its ups and downs and has its rough edges, but what the hell do I know. I’ve only been here 4 years. All of a sudden the methadone clinic and the hourly rate hotel and the drug dealers on the corner – they all gotta go to make way for the new Park Slope. We really can be such assholes.”
So please don’t act as though I’m the only one who expressed such sentiment.