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The Carroll Gardens Neighborhood Association’s listserv lit up this weekend with angry messages about the MTA’s plans for the neighborhood. First off, the transportation authority announced last week that the Carroll Street station entrance (update: at 2nd Place) will be closed beginning on September 14th for 10-12 months to make way for the construction at 360 Smith Street. More upsetting to residents, it seems, is the MTA’s plan to phase out the station agent at the stop’s President Street entrance during the period. (The station is one of dozens that are slated to see the removal of attendants in coming months as a belt-tightening measure.) An online petition has been established to protest the change.
Keep the Station Agents at Carroll Street! [iPetitions] GMAP


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  1. “You can’t fit through those things with either luggage or a stroller… Are they really suggesting that’s feasible?”

    Back when my kids were little I was able to fit myself, two kids, and a collapsible stroller through those Iron Maiden turnstiles without much trouble. I don’t see what the problem is. And those station attendants have always been uniformly unhelpful and uncivil every time a rider made the mistake of disrupting their slumber.

  2. I affectionally call the Bird cage – a gerbil wheel.

    So after the renovations – and just to be clear both endwill be open – correct? This entrance is the closest to us and it will be a bummer.

    I am horrified to think that there will be only one exit this has night club sqaush stampede written all over it.

    What also horrifies me is the people who live next door to this mess that smells of urine with their water fountain in the front yard – it must be horrible for them.

  3. Pete — I only use the service exit when my kid is with me or I’m carrying stuff too big for the cages — and you are correct that I wasn’t explicit about that.

    But those cages are really awful and force people to use the service exits. There are plenty of busy stations (Rector Street on the R line comes to mind) where people just pop them open every time during rush hour because otherwise everyone is stuck on the platform for 5 minutes (which is 5 hours in commuter time).

    I’ve hated them since I first saw them. I think the first time I was ever in a station where the MTA had blocked off the normal turnstiles and restricted people to the cages, there was a young mother with a baby in the stroller and a 2 year old she was carrying plus some bags and stuff and just remember thinking “what the @#%# is wrong with those @#%@#$% @#%@#$% !$%@#$%@#$ idiots at the MT-@#%$ing-A that they think this is the proper way to run a big city transit system.”

    Oh, and the cages only stop someone who is traveling alone from getting a free ride. If there are two or more people, one of them can go through and then just open the service exit for the rest of the group.

    Absolutely stupid system.

    Doesn’t do what it is supposed to do as far as stopping fare theft and makes the New York City subway system substantially less convenient for everyone else.

    Oh, and then they put superloud, long annoying alarms on the service exits even when they know just about every single trainload of people will have at least 1 person who will need to use it because they can’t get through the damn cage.

    Did I mention they are idiots?

  4. this is what nsr said:”I hated those things before I ever had a kid. Now I loathe them.

    I just use the service exit and put up with the alarm.”

    he didn’t say when I have my stroller or anything like that.
    Blanketly said he used the service exit. And don’t tell me that most people who do that have strollers. it is self-absorbed idiots that don’t want to wait for others or push the turnstile. I know that not everything fits thru them and need to use sometimes.
    And don’t pick on me…I come to the defense of stroller people by all that seem to dislike them on this site. I thank you for raising those who will pay for my future social security.

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