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This week we’re hearing from Kelly & Charlie, pictured here in their soon-to-be-own kitchen. They are under contract for a 2-bed 2-bath and roof terrace. Don’t let their charming smiles fool you; they had a lot of tough questions before they signed on the dotted line!

T+B: Tell us a little about yourselves? How big is your family? What are your professions?
Charlie and I met the first week of freshman year of college and started dating about a week later back in 2001. We’ve been engaged since last year but it looks like we will wait on getting married until we can settle into our new home and save a bit more for a wedding. I am a Trusts and Estates attorney and Charlie is an HVAC design engineer. It’s the two of us and our two cats, Benjamin, a 7 year old Himalayan Persian, and Elvis, a 2 year old Ragdoll.

T+B: Benjamin and Elvis are going to love bird-watching out the back windows. What are your favorite things about the unit you have under contract?
There are so many things we love about our unit– the huge windows in the front with the view of the Kentile Floors sign, the open kitchen and vast counter space, the view from the bedrooms of the backyards and how quiet it will be to be away from the street, the central A/C, the quality of the appliances and fixtures, down to the button tiles in the second bathroom. We really think the reason we fell in love with the development and our unit is the attention to detail of the design team and contractors and their refusal to cut corners. We looked at so many places and saw time and again a willingness to sacrifice quality for speed and cost-savings-here you can tell that everyone involved with the project cared about the end result.

T+B: How long had you known about the project before making an offer? Did you strongly consider any other units?
We knew about the project for about a month before we made an offer. We went back a couple of times to scope out the place before making an offer because it was such a big decision and an important investment. We really liked 404 Bond Unit 3 as well, but we ultimately went with this unit because the price was better for our budget and its location on the street really appealed to us.

T+B: When you set out to find a new condo, what were your top 4 must-haves? What was one thing that you really, really hoped for but knew realistically probably wouldn’t get?
Our must haves were: (1) the neighborhood, it had to be in Cobble Hill or Carroll Gardens since we love living here so much, (2) it needed to have two bedrooms so that we would have room to grow, (3) it needed to have a smart layout, open kitchen, a true second bedroom (not a walk-in closet with a window) and (4) it needed to be over 1,000 square feet so that we wouldn’t feel crowded or that the living space was too narrow, which is our current situation in our parlor floor brownstone apartment rental. There were a couple of things we hoped for but didn’t insist on: central A/C, washer and dryer and private outdoor space, all of which we got here. We could have also tolerated a parking space but we knew that was kind of pushing it!

T+B: We’re glad Charlie didn’t have to show up at work, having bought a condo with window air conditioners. Are you from NYC originally? Is this your first real estate purchase in NYC?
Charlie grew up in Yonkers and I grew up on Long Island. We have lived in Brooklyn for a few years now and this is our first real estate purchase generally, let alone in NYC.

T+B: What do you like about this area?
It really feels like a community, there are wonderful people, fabulous restaurants, great parks and the commute to Manhattan is so easy.

T+B: Are you worried about the Gowanus Canal?

We would say that we are concerned about it, sure. You won’t find either of us swimming in it any time soon. But we have reviewed the information available and took a lot of comfort in some of things that we have seen, including a New York Times article interviewing Christos Tsiamis, the scientist from the EPA who is the project manager charged with figuring out how contaminated the Gowanus is and the best means to clean it. When he was asked what would he say if his daughters decided that they were moving near the Gowanus, he responded “[a]bsolutely. I don’t think there are any issues. I would live near the Gowanus Canal. It’s a beautiful area. I think it’s very expensive, though.”

T+B: And we didn’t even bribe him to say that. Do you think Whole Foods will ever open?
We’re not sure, but we aren’t too concerned since we have a few small markets in the immediate vicinity and Park Natural Foods (which we love) is within a few blocks of the development.

T+B: How has it been getting a mortgage?

It hasn’t been too difficult, but there are a couple of restrictions on lending for new developments that have slowed the closing process. One of the big ones is that 51% of the units are required to be in contract before the bank will release the funds. [T+B: 51% is the requirement for Fannie Mae backed loans. Third + Bond is also approved for FHA loans which can close when 30% of the units are in contract.] We think the best thing you can do is find a broker you are comfortable with so that you can ask all your questions since it can be such an intimidating process. Our mortgage broker, Tim Goss from Wells Fargo, has been terrific and we think that has made all the difference.

T+B: Be honest, how important in your decision-making was Third + Bond’s commitment to being green?

It was very important to the both of us. It really set this development apart from any other units we have looked at. The LEED certification process helps identify that the building’s developer and design team made design considerations that will ultimately help us to minimize our energy and water use while ensuring a healthier indoor environment for years to come. Charlie is a LEED Accredited Professional and I can pretty safely say that you have never seen anyone get as excited about a dual flush toilet.

T+B: How did you hear about Third + Bond?
Streeteasy.com

T+B: When in your buying process did you learn about our postings on Brownstoner? Did they have any impact on you (like you secretly posted mean things during negotiation and now only post nice things)?
After we visited the first open house. I read the blog regularly now and any time I start to read the comments Charlie yells at me to stop because I tend to get upset when anyone says anything negative about our new home.

T+B: If there was one thing about how we developed T+B that you’d have wanted us to do differently, what would it be?

Bike storage. We wouldn’t mind some parking spots, but we could definitely use central bike storage.

T+B: Maybe we shouldn’t tell you that we had bike storage planned for each building, but the storage was lost to competing needs. We’re looking into nice sidewalk racks though. Do you have your eye on any particular new furniture to fit out your new castle in the sky?

We are planning on refurbishing my grandmother’s dining room table, which we never had the space for before. We are also planning to buy some pieces from Copeland, which uses sustainably harvested hardwoods from the American Northern Forest and is Forest Stewardship Council certified.

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  1. Kelly, if you’ve gotten this far in the comments without an anxiety attack, hi, neighbor.

    I wanted to stay in south Brooklyn, whether Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill, Boerum Hill, Brooklyn Heights, or the seamless area I live in, now, between Carroll Gardens and Park Slope. I’m older than this young couple, and I’ve always rented in my adult life, currently a place best described as a compartment rather than an apartment. If I was younger, I might go to an up-and-coming neighborhood for less money, or buy a co-op, also often listed for less than condos, but I want the nearby cafes and good-hearted neighbors, environmentally built structure, new appliances, safe neighborhood. I like the canal, too, and those daring birds and houseboaters.

    My situation is different, and bittersweet. I reached my goal of owning, and I look forward to those certificates of occupancy coming through.

  2. Why are some of the commenters calling this a “luxury apartment?” Does “luxury” mean “well built and with most of the basic necessities?” There’s nothing luxurious about Third + Bond, that is one if its charms. It’s just an honestly built and quite basic development of modestly-sized apartments. “Luxury” buildings have doormen, elevators, pools, etc.

  3. Why do most of you even live in this city? You all pretty much hate it here and pretty much everything about it. Seriously why not just move out and get that dirt cheap real estate you complain that we don’t have.

  4. Hey fsrg, why the personal and nasty attack? This is indeed a new low…you seem like a very jealous angry and despicable person. We really feel sorry for you!

    “They seem nice if very naive (unless they got some $ for being part of the 3rd & Bond marketing materials) – I mean WHY (especially since they said they read this blog) would they open themselves up to all the comments that a post like this is going to invite???

    But since they did let me say:
    1. hopefully did not buy this RE in joint name
    2. should not get married (they are too young)
    3. Will likely not last (met as college freshman!! – come on)”

    Kelly and Charlie you guys are awesome and congratulations on the new home. We apologise for the nasty comments being spewed here…lots of jealousy around unfortunately.

  5. “For $700K I want unicorns and rainbows. I want 2K square feet. I think I’ve already mentioned wasting space with kitchen islands and second bathrooms as a good reason why this is not so wonderful.”

    You’re living in the wrong city sister.

  6. “And this unit would easily rent for 700/10/12 = 5 to 6 grand/mo.”

    Disagree. Maybe I don’t know the rental market as well as I think? But you could do a lot better for 5K-6K a month. You could live farther from the canal! On a block with shade! You could get a triplex in fort greene, easily.

    I am also not anti-FHA. Hell, if we ever buy anything, we will need this magical FHA downpayment that we could save in six months! I am, however, slightly saddened and confused that it takes $700K to buy this apartment, because I do not like this apartment for $700K. For $700K I want unicorns and rainbows. I want 2K square feet. I think I’ve already mentioned wasting space with kitchen islands and second bathrooms as a good reason why this is not so wonderful. Or, if one has to have those things, why not just live in 110 Livingston?

    But I admit, there are huge sectors of the New York real estate market that make no sense to me.

  7. I’m all for FHA for any first time buyer. Why should only those with a big dollop of cash from their parents to make a preposterous downpayment get to buy a place like this? People who have educated themselves and got a good job, especially first-family-member-to-go-to-college minorities with parents who can never offer them financial help, need help with the biggest purchase of their life if they are to get ahead in life. As long as they pay the mortgage, who cares.

    Miserable old bitterstoners.

  8. yeah that’s funny how my computers are always breaking like that. hahahhaa i guess now i know the reason? i wasnt saying anything nasty in this thread tho..

    *rob*

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