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Construction on Caton Court, a medium-sized condo near the Parade Grounds, is looking more or less complete nowadays. The banner hanging from the building announces that it’s going to have one- and two-bedroom units (far as we know, they haven’t hit the market yet), and we’re wondering what kind of prices the developers could be hoping for. Condos at Lefferts South, about five blocks east, are selling for around $500 a foot, and it seems to us like Caton Court’s location between 17th and 18th streets is more attractive than Lefferts South’s. But per a reader who’s been watching Caton Court go up—and is rooting for it to sell well—the new building’s coordinates are potentially problematic:

The avenue itself is an incessantly clogged noisy truck route, and the Church Ave. IND station, in need of an upgrade throughout, is at its very worst at the Caton Avenue end, a virtual ruin. The commercial strip a block away on Church Avenue is pure crap, and when they roll down the grates in the evening it’s creepy…I wonder whether new residents will want to pay whatever they’re asking to be the gentrifying pioneers on what is currently a very gritty working-class corridor.

Predictions?
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  1. do not ever buy on caton ave,it is a hellhole neighborhood.unless u like to live with blacks and jamaicans and haitians get away.i grew up there and moved away 20yrs ago.it has just gone to hell
    sorry the truth hurts.
    i dont see it changing for many yrs if ever
    i beautiful area was destroyed 30 yrs ago by whites moving out and blacks moving in
    just a fact jack

  2. I have lived on East 17th by Caton for the last 10 years. I love it. This is a neighborhood with a great deal of community where families have lived for generations. If you take a moment to look people in the eye and show a little respect the community opens up to you. The park is unbeatable. the parade grounds are full of sporting events all weekend for people of all ages. You are near paddle boating, horse back riding, tennis, ice skating. not far from botanical garden, zoo and merry go round. This is a great place for family. also PS 249 is an up and coming school with great test scores, and a positive and passionate staff. for grades K-3.

  3. You are obviously not paying attention. I wrote that there isn’t even a view of a train station if you buy an apartment in a less expensive neighborhood. Since this blog is about the “Caton Court” building. IT HAS SOUND PROOF WINDOWS AND A VIEW OF THE VERRAZANO BRIDGE FROM THE 5TH, 6TH AND 7TH FLOORS. If you are near sided however you are screwed. AGAIN, if you want amenities in your neighborhood you have to pay a lot more money. There is a Dunkin Donuts on Church Ave., but I guess that’s not good enough for you. Why are you still living there after 12 years? Obviously the lack of “entertainment” doesn’t bother YOU very much.

  4. To the very passionate person who wrote the very inaccurate last posting—- you are an idiot who obviously does not live in the neighborhood-especially if you state that there isn’t even a view of the church ave train. That’s the only view there is you moron. Noone even mentioned clubs and bars… I said stores and entertainment meaning coffee shops etc. I’m so glad you are wordly and oh so intelligent and by the way- not all buildings are using sound proof windows- I’m suprised you didn’t know that already…

  5. To the very passionate person who wrote the very inaccurate last posting—- you are an idiot who obviously does not live in the neighborhood-especially if you state that there isn’t even a view of the church ave train. That’s the only view there is you moron. Noone even mentioned clubs and bars… I said stores and entertainment meaning coffee shops etc. I’m so glad you are wordly and oh so intelligent and by the way- not all buildings are using sound proof windows- I’m suprised you didn’t know that already…

  6. If you don’t want noise and crowds and if you DO want stores and entertainment; where would YOU buy? Where there is entertainment and stores there is noise too. You are contradicting yourself. You like bar and club noise, but you don’t like kids hanging on the street with their stereos? I am confused. Where can you get an apartment for under $500 a square foot in Brooklyn? Please tell me. In Canarsie? where you have to take a bus and a train or TWO to get to work? There isn’t even a view of an ugly train station there. Are you telling people to move to the suburbs? Because that’s what they would have to do if they can’t afford to pay more. There are a lot of people that have never bought a place of their own because they always thought is was to expensive at the time, or the location was not right or who knows why else.
    All of the places these people didn’t buy 10 or 20 years ago are now worth 2 times or 3 times as much. I have neighbors that are renting and they wanted to buy an apartment in my building and as the prices were going up they always said “there is no way I am paying that much, not here“ (what are they talking about? They have been renting here for years. They could have made a fortune already if they owned) and then the prices kept going up and now it’s out of reach for them. You have to look at the bigger picture for crying out loud. Location, location, location, not noise, noise, noise. Look at the proximity to the city. In regards to the noise. Nobody is realizing that new buildings have better windows. THEY ARE SOUND PROOF.

  7. I have lived on Parade Place for 12 years and have never had a problem. However, It is true that Caton ave is extremely loud at all hours. There are alot of people hanging out on the street with chairs and stereos at all hours of the day. There are shootings on the side streets behind the new condo resulting in police blockades AT LEASt once a month. Anyone who lives here can verify that. We had cops surveilling the streets for drugs a year ago and noisy kids in the souped up cars are constant fixtures with loud bass thumping music ALL NIGHT. The new building is out of place and looks cheap and small. I have watched the progress of the building since it started and it has taken YEARS to complete- which may mean not enough money to finish the project properly and certainly they have been cutting corners on the interior. There are no views from the condos-only ugly train station and old buildings. I would never waste good money on such a cheap building considering the noise, the crowds and the huge lack of quality stores, restaurants and entertainment that would defintely attract possible buyers. The neighborhood is slowly changing but don’t count on a drastic change anytime soon.

  8. I have lived on Parade Place for 12 years and have never had a problem. However, It is true that Caton ave is extremely loud at all hours. There are alot of people hanging out on the street with chairs and stereos at all hours of the day. There are shootings on the side streets behind the new condo resulting in police blockades AT LEASt once a month. Anyone who lives here can verify that. We had cops surveilling the streets for drugs a year ago and noisy kids in the souped up cars are constant fixtures with loud bass thumping music ALL NIGHT. The new building is out of place and looks cheap and small. I have watched the progress of the building since it started and it has taken YEARS to complete- which may mean not enough money to finish the project properly and certainly they have been cutting corners on the interior. There are no views from the condos-only ugly train station and old buildings. I would never waste good money on such a cheap building considering the noise, the crowds and the huge lack of quality stores, restaurants and entertainment that would defintely attract possible buyers. The neighborhood is slowly changing but don’t count on a drastic change anytime soon.

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