Cohen, go proselytize elsewhere. No one cares how much you know about Judaism. You’re clearly just wanting to show off how religious you are in public.
Thanks, bfarwell, for your understanding – I was just reporting what a friend at the DoS had told me. It didn’t make much sense to me, but she insisted that it’s all they’d been talking about for the past week. I can also see how one culture’s misunderstanding of another’s rituals can lead to confusion, fear, and exaggeration.
There is a huge debate on my neighborhood listserve at the moment regarding whoever has been leaving large quantities of animal blood and guts all over Prospect Park, with some people defending practicioners of Santeria and Yoruba rites vs. others who see it as a public health issue vs. still others who maintain that even if these were ritual sacrifices usually the religions involved require that the remains be cleaned up, and possbily eaten, so whoever is doing it is probably not a religious group.
Just a huge mess overall and a sign of the difficulties of integrating centuries-old practices with modern city life.
Okay, okay, so babs had the wrong ‘holiday,’ but that chicken slaughtering sh*t is a giant freakin’ nasty-ass mess. You can donate it to whoever the hell you want, but there are piles and piles of bags of who-knows what chicken nastiness spilling out across the sidewalk and into the street, leaking and oozing like a bad movie.
She’s relaying the (imho justified) complaints of people she knows in the sanitation department, who are conflating two separate but real incidents of religious ritual behaviour leaving behind a nasty pain-in-their-ass mess in the public space.
Your crowded-theatre shout of ‘blood libel’ is completely inappropriate and over-reacting, given the very serious nature of historical blood-libel claims, a long series of vicious falsehoods that have been trotted out to persecute jews throughout the ages.
“I can’t believe it, comparing the three steps for ritually cleansing the home for Passover with a neighborhood barbecue. Please, I rather stop reading this comments, it makes me sick.”
Oh, come ON cohen. It was an honest question, asking why followers of one particular religion seemed to be burning a bunch of stuff on the sidewalk. I’m sure part of the reason they were identified as hassidic was that the OP thought there might be a religious aspect to the behavior and was looking for an answer that took that into account.
If you can’t handle that, you should probably not wander around in this cold, cruel, insensitive internet. Or possibly outside at all.
(on a side note- a lot of cultural rituals, if practiced in non-corresponding neighborhoods, would result in the practitioners getting in trouble. So, while I see your point in griping about ‘in any other neighborhood,’ BSD, it’s also quite true.)
(rob- do they make big neon fur hats? ’cause that would be hot.)
babs – the difficulty in determining where the line between idiocy and anti-Semitism is drawn is evident in your post:
“but there’s apparently also a lot of on the street chicken slaughtering and blood-draining in the gutters”. A Brownstoner blood libel. Blood in the gutter.
A few Chassidic sects practice “Kapparot” before Yom Kippur – holding a chicken above their heads hoping that sins will be transferred to the bird. The chickens are subsequently slaughtered and most often donated to charity. Yes, a blood libel. You should be ashamed.
i dont think it’s deviant, but i dont see any joy in any of those faces. 🙁 it is weird tho how religion gets a pass for things. how many others can take those pieces of public property (im aswsuming those are street dividers?) burn it in public and get a pass for it, so i see where others are coming from.. however if i passed this in person my gut reaction woud be, oh that’s cool! (as something to see.) shrug. it’s easier to pick apart stuff like this on the internet than if you actually see it..
Cohen, go proselytize elsewhere. No one cares how much you know about Judaism. You’re clearly just wanting to show off how religious you are in public.
Thanks, bfarwell, for your understanding – I was just reporting what a friend at the DoS had told me. It didn’t make much sense to me, but she insisted that it’s all they’d been talking about for the past week. I can also see how one culture’s misunderstanding of another’s rituals can lead to confusion, fear, and exaggeration.
There is a huge debate on my neighborhood listserve at the moment regarding whoever has been leaving large quantities of animal blood and guts all over Prospect Park, with some people defending practicioners of Santeria and Yoruba rites vs. others who see it as a public health issue vs. still others who maintain that even if these were ritual sacrifices usually the religions involved require that the remains be cleaned up, and possbily eaten, so whoever is doing it is probably not a religious group.
Just a huge mess overall and a sign of the difficulties of integrating centuries-old practices with modern city life.
(when I said ‘there are…piles and piles of bags,’ I obviously meant there are those piles of bags when the event occurs, not now.)
(rolls eyes)
Okay, okay, so babs had the wrong ‘holiday,’ but that chicken slaughtering sh*t is a giant freakin’ nasty-ass mess. You can donate it to whoever the hell you want, but there are piles and piles of bags of who-knows what chicken nastiness spilling out across the sidewalk and into the street, leaking and oozing like a bad movie.
She’s relaying the (imho justified) complaints of people she knows in the sanitation department, who are conflating two separate but real incidents of religious ritual behaviour leaving behind a nasty pain-in-their-ass mess in the public space.
Your crowded-theatre shout of ‘blood libel’ is completely inappropriate and over-reacting, given the very serious nature of historical blood-libel claims, a long series of vicious falsehoods that have been trotted out to persecute jews throughout the ages.
oy.
“I can’t believe it, comparing the three steps for ritually cleansing the home for Passover with a neighborhood barbecue. Please, I rather stop reading this comments, it makes me sick.”
Oh, come ON cohen. It was an honest question, asking why followers of one particular religion seemed to be burning a bunch of stuff on the sidewalk. I’m sure part of the reason they were identified as hassidic was that the OP thought there might be a religious aspect to the behavior and was looking for an answer that took that into account.
If you can’t handle that, you should probably not wander around in this cold, cruel, insensitive internet. Or possibly outside at all.
(on a side note- a lot of cultural rituals, if practiced in non-corresponding neighborhoods, would result in the practitioners getting in trouble. So, while I see your point in griping about ‘in any other neighborhood,’ BSD, it’s also quite true.)
(rob- do they make big neon fur hats? ’cause that would be hot.)
babs – the difficulty in determining where the line between idiocy and anti-Semitism is drawn is evident in your post:
“but there’s apparently also a lot of on the street chicken slaughtering and blood-draining in the gutters”. A Brownstoner blood libel. Blood in the gutter.
A few Chassidic sects practice “Kapparot” before Yom Kippur – holding a chicken above their heads hoping that sins will be transferred to the bird. The chickens are subsequently slaughtered and most often donated to charity. Yes, a blood libel. You should be ashamed.
See my above comment about the Dep’t. of Sanitation – that’s who does the cleaning up and why they hate this day.
Bonfire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A bonfire is a controlled outdoor fire used for informal disposal of burnable waste material or as part of a celebration.
“Hasidic Celebration”, Is that anti-semitic?
Also, say it was a group of Franciscan monks, would saying “monk bonfire” be anti-semitic?
Last question: who cleans up the mess?
i dont think it’s deviant, but i dont see any joy in any of those faces. 🙁 it is weird tho how religion gets a pass for things. how many others can take those pieces of public property (im aswsuming those are street dividers?) burn it in public and get a pass for it, so i see where others are coming from.. however if i passed this in person my gut reaction woud be, oh that’s cool! (as something to see.) shrug. it’s easier to pick apart stuff like this on the internet than if you actually see it..
*rob*