Asbestos That's Not a Ripoff?
Can anyone recommend an honest and fairly priced company to do asbestos removal? I’ve tried calling a few from old postings on this site but they appear to no longer be in business. We have a small job: Remove fewer than 5 inches of asbestos from pipes in basement, vacuum dirt floor, and simply throw…
Can anyone recommend an honest and fairly priced company to do asbestos removal? I’ve tried calling a few from old postings on this site but they appear to no longer be in business.
We have a small job: Remove fewer than 5 inches of asbestos from pipes in basement, vacuum dirt floor, and simply throw away a small amount of linoleum that is not glued to the floor.
I have no problem agreeing that smoking greatly increases the chances of mesothelioma. However you need asbestos to get it. Prolonged exposure to asbestos has dire consequences even without tobacco. Nonetheless, we are all entitled to our opinions 🙂
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“denton: enlighten me. What makes you an expert on asbestos? And if you are one, why on earth would you defend such a ludicrous claim that the tobacco is really at the root of mesothelioma.”
There’s no point in me going into detail… nevertheless pls read my posts. In no case did I state that tobacco is at the root of mesothelioma. In fact @ 10:51 I specifically denied it! I stated that the large majority of people who have died of asbestos-related disease have been smokers. Smoking weakens the lungs in some way that makes asbestos diseases more likely IF you are in an industry that exposes you to asbestos on a regular basis. Pls see the following which states that smoking increases the risk of asbestos-related diseases by 87 times:
http://www.kazanlaw.com/faqs/diseases/smoking.cfm
As to the legalities, if you will do your research you will discover that indeed cigarette companies were sued going back to the 1930s. They have successfully maintained that there is no _direct_ proof that any plaintiff has been injured by smoking not asbestos. And they have been very good at it and often claimed precedent. Remember the tobacco companies have much deeper pockets even than Grace, JM, and Owens Corning. Here’s a link for you.
http://www.mesotheliomalegalrights.com/asbestos-lawsuit-tobacco.htm
Denton’s right. Asbestos is not kryptonite. Anyone who works in ceramics, a foundry, some science labs or about a million other industrial/artisanal situations where you need a truly excellent insulator still comes across asbestos on a regular basis, and the chances are excellent that it’s not going to kill them.
Denton’s characterization of asbestos reads pretty much verbatim like any foundry/ceramics/welding textbook sidebar about asbestos risk. It’s simply something you need to get regularly exposed to, like cigarettes, it needs to be friable in order to harm you, and it is still everywhere (in an industrial setting).
It’s important to recognize its presence and its risks, wear a P100 mask that fits your face and keep it wet if you’re going to render it friable and isolate everything (ie, triple bag it and toss your clothes). That’s what you pay an “expert” to do.
Zberlin, it’s good to be safe but you are speaking past your area of expertise here.
denton: enlighten me. What makes you an expert on asbestos? And if you are one, why on earth would you defend such a ludicrous claim that the tobacco is really at the root of mesothelioma. I’m sure Owens Corning et al would have loved your argument and could have avoided over $10 billion in settlements.
what about the era pre-tobacco? People died from asbestosis, the ancient romans and greeks knew this.
I’m really sorry to hear about your 30 year consumption of asbestos. My father died of mesothelioma and the pain was excruciating.
Thank you everybody for the phone numbers. I tried Joe Bova before but could not reach him, happy to have more numbers for him and the other guy.
I can’t do the work myself for other reasons but not because I am worried I will contract mesothelioma.
zberlin, it so happens that I am an expert. Your posts show that your information comes from a magazine article or two.
denton: you’re entirely wrong. Asbestos exposure is harmful to everyone. Stop acting like an expert when you’re not. Smoking in addition to asbestos increases your chances of getting sick.
Furthermore, just because smoking increases your chances of a stroke doesn’t mean you need to smoke to get stroke 🙂
zberlin, you’re just contaminating the discussion, seriously. Smokers DO NOT contract mesothelioma.
I’ve been breathing asbestos for thirty years and am not consumed.
Do some research, please.
the big hoopla with asbestos is that it cannot be broken down and it is impervious. When it goes into the lungs certain particles contaminate the lining of the lungs. After 20 + years cancer consumes the victim. Even the ancients were aware of its harmful effects. So don’t tell me that only smokers suffer from Mesothelioma.