According to our contract we have 5 days from the date of its execution to start an application for mortgage. Is that pretty typical practice?
How did you get the best rate? Am we suppose to go to as many lenders and brokers in that time period and fill out tons of applications and see what shakes out as the best rate? Am I entitled to know what fees they will charge ahead of time?

Our lawyer keeps saying mortgage brokers cannot be trusted and they are usually a large reason why there are issues at closing. We are hoping to close before the end of the year so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!


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  1. Yes, we have a getting a mortgage contigency in our contract.
    Its a 1-family house. From the sounds of almost everyone’s experience on here, people just went with one broker.

  2. If you’re going with a broker, I highly recommend Elise Leve at Manhattan Mortgage. She got us a great rate. I don’t know how she gets paid. Closing costs were 2 or 3 percent of the total purchase price. But I think her main expertise is coops in Manhattan, not houses.

  3. My husband and I had a very good experience with a mortgage broker at Apple Mortgage Corp. We paid a credit check fee, but no other application fees– the broker was paid directly by the bank. I was happy with our rate and the experience as a whole. Ours was a condo but any NYC bank is going to have experience with coops since they are such a large share of the market. Also, if you’re on a tight schedule, I would get together now the paperwork you’re going to need. For us it was:

    -2 recent pay stubs for both of you.
    last 2 years W-2’s and tax returns
    -2 months assets statements i.e. checking, savings, stocks, retirement etc. Provide all pages of all statements.
    -Photo i.d.
    -Name and phone number of your attorney and real estate agent.
    -Copy of the contract of sale.

  4. Yes, many mortgage brokers are sleazy but often they can get better deals, esp. if you have a situation that is not standard – co-op, jumbo loan, etc. We used Trachtman and Bach. I wasn’t happy about our particular broker’s dissembling, but he pulled off something I never would have thought possible for the bridge loan we needed until we sold our old place. (A home-equity line of credit on the apartment we had not yet bought. ) Good luck. I also was trying to make a purchase in December 2 years ago – tough to keep things moving because of holidays and vacations.

  5. you’re telling me you didn’t bother to get your good faith statement from the bank prior to house hunting?
    You are running a risk and I hope you have a contingency clause in your contract. If not I hope you get a loan cause you will be responsible for purchase anyhow.
    The best and safest practice is to obtain and lock the rate before signing the contract. This way you are safe with no worries as to how to obtain the mortgage.

  6. OP, here again. I believe the 5-day thing is just to make sure that we as buyers don’t stall in the mortgage process and start an application right away (since the mortage contingency is in the contract.)
    Homebuyers, how many paid applications did you submit with different banks and people? I have brokers telling me – oh I can get you rates from 6% to 6.25% but that is not very definitive, right? If application fees run $200 or $300 each, that really adds up… but I can’t figure out how else you are suppose to compared rates if you don’t submit applications with different people, correct?

    We have good credit – in the 800s and we have 20% already in hand. The thing is we’re self-employed but we have been for a number of years already and that’s reflected in all our past tax returns. So this might still be a stumbling block and to go with a broker? How do brokers make their money? We’ve asked brokers point blank many a times and no one has given us a straight answer. I would assume, they tack on some percentage to the actual rate that the bank is willing to give? Also, how can I tell one mortgage broker from another – what makes a “good” broker, that can close when they say they can?

  7. Pre-approval = Apply for a mortgage now.
    The bank does due diligence. They then say “Yes, we will give you a mortgage for x amount before x date”

    Then if you agree to buy a plce before x date, you have the motgage application done.

    And yes, as far as what IrieMan said, not only strike the 5 day clause, insert a clause that says if you cant get a mortgage, the deal is off and you get your money back.

    This is Nov/2008, a buyers market. This is standard. And if you laywer didndt tell you this already, fire him.

  8. And, IrieMan has a point–it is worth asking to strike the five day clause if you haven’t signed yet. If you’re trying to shop around for a mortgage starting just before Thanksgiving … eek.