How many can live in 1 family house
Is there a limit on how many people can legally occupy a one-family home in NYC? There is a house on my block that has an extended family of about 15 adults and 9 kids. They do all appear to be family so I am certain that they are not running a rooming house, just…
Is there a limit on how many people can legally occupy a one-family home in NYC? There is a house on my block that has an extended family of about 15 adults and 9 kids. They do all appear to be family so I am certain that they are not running a rooming house, just wondering about saftey.
Chaka- Just wondering called me a knucklehead. I don’t start the name calling and I don’t usually indulge in it unless I am attacked first, so I don’t know where you get off pointing fingers at me as there are far many others who have made name calling and nastiness an art form here. And if you actually read the crown heights thread why don’t you point out what name-calling I did? So do us both a favor. Don’t “help me” because you obviously have a problem with me and I find your superior attitude offensive.
Bxgrl, you really do read too much into some of these posts. I tried to help you out the other day but you always slide back down that slippery slope of name calling and then get upset when others do it to you.
thanks, clown. I will.
bxgrl,
You really read way too much into many of these posts. People on the block were talking and I was JUST WONDERING. That simple. Don’t need to live in a gated community because I don’t need control over my neighbors. But even outside of gated communities there are rules as to what you can an can’t do in your home. Those rules protect us all. That said, if my neighbors have issues with these people, they can post to the forum on Brownstoner to seek help in finding resolution to their problems.
And of course, knucklehead, there were other reasons why crack houses abounded! Again your’re reading way too much into this. Be easy.
I think “affect my quality of life” is the operative phrase. You don’t mention what issues they are causing for their adjoining neighbors, nor do you give any particular reason for concern about the children. Beyond a vague mention of fire (and fires can happen anywhere, anytime to anyone). Other than there are a lot of family members living together in the house you haven’t given any specific reason for your concern. If the people in the house are creating problems of course it has to be addressed but if they own the house and you know they’re all family, what do you think should happen?
It’s an oversimplification to think crack houses abounded because neighbors didn’t question who went in and out of brownstones. Unless I’m doing something illegal, or creating a real danger, no one has the right to question what I do in my own house. People who need that much control over their neighbors live in gated communities.
I was wondering the same. A co-worker just told me that the people residing in your home are considered tenants. She said that when she asked her college-aged daughter to leave her home for a number of transgressions and the girl took her to court and WON! The girl lived in the same bedroom that she had lived in for years and never paid rent but was considered a tenant who had been illegally evicted when her mom put her out!
I guess it would be up to a judge to decide how to interpret tenancy in this case.
Can anyone confirm that the housing code posted applies to owners of a single-family home? It appears to me that it only applies to tenants in a landlord-controlled space.
They were invited but did not come which is how the subject came up. My concern is the children. The neighbors adjacent to them have other concerns.
I have read about homes catching fire and many of these homes where there are fatalities were homes with lots of people.
Neighbors not questioning who came and went from hundreds of Brownstones all over Brooklyn is was led to many of them becoming crackhouses. Not that we think that they are selling crack. Neighbors beginning to question is how neighborhoods began to change for the better. If I had a lot of traffic in and out of my home how would my neighbors know who was family and of course they would question it if it began to affect their quality of life. Just as you would Bxgrl. Thanks for the info Chaka.
CHAPTER 2
HOUSING MAINTENANCE CODE
[table of contents]
SUBCHAPTER 3
PHYSICAL AND OCCUPANCY STANDARDS FOR DWELLING UNITS
Article 4
Minimum Room Sizes and Occupancy Regulations
Section
27-2074 Minimum Room Sizes
27-2075 Maximum Permitted Occupancy
27-2076 Prohibited Occupancies
27-2077 Conversions to Rooming Units Prohibited
27-2078 Rental of Rooms to Boarders
27-2079 Single Room Occupancy
27-2080 Maintenance of a Registry in Rooming House and Single Room Occupancy Buildings
http://www.housingnyc.com/html/resources/hmc/sub3/art4.html#27-2075
NYC Housing Guidelines
Sec. 27-2075 Maximum permitted occupancy
No dwelling unit shall be occupied by a greater number of persons than is permitted by this section.
Every person occupying an apartment in a class A or class B multiple dwelling or in a tenant-occupied apartment in a one- or two-family dwelling shall have a livable area of not less than eighty square feet. The maximum number of persons who may occupy any such apartment shall be determined by dividing the total livable floor area of the apartment by eighty square feet. For every two persons who may lawfully occupy an apartment, one child under four may also reside therein, except that a child under four is permitted in an apartment lawfully occupied by one person. No residual floor area of less than eighty square feet shall be counted in determining the maximum permitted occupancy for such apartment.
The floor area of a kitchen or kitchenette shall be included in measuring the total liveable floor area of an apartment but the floor area for private halls, foyers, bathrooms or water closets shall be excluded.
A living room in a rooming unit may be occupied by not more than two persons if it has a minimum floor area not less than one hundred ten square feet in a rooming house, or one hundred thirty square feet in a single room occupancy.