We’ve finally got our plans and permits and are moving right along with our gut reno! And like most renovators, we plan to document the project the whole way.

This is a South Slope 2-family semi-detached brick house. It’s 16′ x 66′, so, about 1000 sft on each of the two floors. Plus there’s a tall dry basement. When the rest of the house is finished, we plan to turn most of the basement into a library, when our finances recover. Right now most of my books are in storage.

We’re planning to convert from a 2 family to a single family home. So the kitchen comes out of the second floor (although we’ll be leaving the plumbing for it behind the walls just in case). Also we’ll be opening up the staircases.

Currently it’s configured as two apartments, with the bath and kitchen in the middle of each, and 2 bedrooms on one side, and a LR/DR on the other. There’s a second exterior door that enters into the kitchen from the driveway. We’re going to seal that up and replace with a new door that opens up into the back yard.

On the ground floor, from front to back, we’re going to have a large L/R, then a small bath with shower, and a large kitchen with all the latest goodies like a 6 burner range and a wine cooler. After the kitchen comes a full dining room, and that will open up through the new door into the yard.

Upstairs there will be our master bedroom and a walk-in closet that will also open into the master bath, which will contain a bathtub. I’ll have a small office for myself, followed by a larger office/guest bedroom for my wife.

We had hoped to do radiant heat, but the cost got out of control, so we’ll be taking out the old steam boiler and non-functioning gas hot water heater, and installing a high-efficiency boiler, indirect water heater, and baseboard hydronic heating. We’re also going to be insulating the wall that is not attached, and making sure the attic is well insulated. And we’ll be putting in central air. Heating and A/C will be multi-zone.

We’re not going to get completely crazy with the electronics, but we do plan to make sure that every room has a network connection, a cable connection, and two phone jacks. We’re going to install in-wall speakers in the DR, and a small home theater set-up in the LR with all the speakers (except the sub-woofer) and wiring in-wall and in-ceiling.

My wife and I are fairly resilient people, so the plan is to live in the house while this happens. Most of our stuff is in the basement. We are living on the first floor with minimal stuff, and the second floor is vacant. The second floor is to be gutted and re-built first. When it’s done, we move upstairs, while the same thing happens downstairs. We realize that it won’t be perfect, but that’s the plan nevertheless.

The house leaked for years. At some point, some repairs were made; new windows, new roof, etc. But the damage was done. Many parts of the walls and floors have significant water damage. The baths and kitchens had dropped ceilings installed to hide the damage. We looked into saving some of the things like the floors, moldings, and so on, but in every case they were either of poor quality of not viable to save.

I know everyone complains that no one shares contractors or pricing. I will later in the process.

Here’s a photo of the second floor just after a closet was removed. The place looks much nicer than it really is.
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The kitchen comes out. That aluminum foil on the ceiling was taped there to hold up the falling plaster under the dropped ceiling.
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The debris builds up until the dumpster is ordered:
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Getting down to nothing:
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Zulu, the demo foreman, checks the work.
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The bathroom:
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I never thought the debris would fill this huge dumpster, but it did. Here it’s being picked up:
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Demo complete, wall studs going up:
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The many additions and changes to bath and kitchen through the years, not to mention the water leaks, had pretty much destroyed the floor, and even the joists had been cut through. And the whole area was very saggy, So here we have two new joists installed, and the neighboring joists being leveled to match.
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And that’s it so far.


Comments

  1. wow! please please please post how you came to your estimates for renovation and how you reconciled with the actual budget.

    I am debating on whether to make an offer for a house that needs renovation and my x factor is the estimated cost of the renovation. Also how did you work with an architect or you going with just a contractor. Can’t wait to read your posts!

  2. Hey 11:50…

    Yes, we always knew this would be a gut.

    Since we’re going to install plumbing on the 2nd floor for a kitchen so as to be able to convert it back to a 2 family in the future (or a future buyer) we’re also going to keep a small kitchen hooked up there for a while.

    Also, the upstairs bath and kitchen were far more disgusting than the downstairs one, so that played a part in our decision.

    Dumb as it may seem, we didn’t really get estimates before we moved in except from the inspector, which I knew would be way off. I did an estimate based on my knowledge of materials and time. We’re above that estimate, but not catastrophically so. I’ll share that at a later date.

    The coolest thing we found so far (besides the old lady’s liquor stash in a closet along with a mink hat from Bonwit Teller, pre-demo) is at the head of the upstairs there was a 2′ section of empty space that was blocked up. So we gained an extra four square feet of space! Great!

  3. So, you’re living on the 1st flr with old kitchen while gutting the upper flr for bedrooms/baths/office. Once that’s done, you’ll live up there and gut the lower flr to put in new kitchen etc. Won’t that leave you w/o a kitchen for a while? Seems like it’d make more sense to do the main flr first so you could use the upper rental kitchen and then camp in your new LR while the bedroom flr was done. Maybe I’m missing something.

    Did you realize before you bought it that you’d have to gut everything? Did the estimates you got ahead of time (from inspector or architect or GC) match up to the current estimates or did they go up after they knew you were into the place? Find anything super cool (besides that wallpaper) behind any walls/floors?

    Good luck and keep us posted.

  4. Thanks, 7:49. Perhaps you meant the top right side of the page?
    It’s not as easy as you think. But thanks for thinking about it.

    6:09, thanks also (this time seriously). I’m trying to get the right stuff installed. The funny thing is that we don’t really watch TV and don’t do cable/sat/TV. But we do want to get it right.

  5. re computer/cable/speaker wiring: I suggest that while the walls are open install wiring conduit with wire-pulling cord in place so you can easily install whatever new wiring without opening walls. Be sure to have your cable company involved in the cable installation–we had the bright idea of installing TV/data cable in all the likely places, but the cable was of such poor quality that it is useless. It also not installed inside conduit, so it can’t be easily replaced with the right stuff.