Permits - Backyard Deck
We’d like to build a deck in the rear yard of our brownstone. I realize DOB requires an architect to design the deck and permits must be obtained. But, what if our architect designed the deck as a series of panels, like 4′ squares, that sit on a grid of concrete footings. Since the panels…
We’d like to build a deck in the rear yard of our brownstone. I realize DOB requires an architect to design the deck and permits must be obtained. But, what if our architect designed the deck as a series of panels, like 4′ squares, that sit on a grid of concrete footings. Since the panels could be moved, would we theoretically be able to call the deck panels “furniture” and therefore not need to file for a permit from DOB. The panels would be connected so as not to be TOO easily moveable. We’re thinking this would save us some time and money, albeit require more designing. Any thoughts? Could this work? The DOB requirements for decks are ridiculous.
I’m looking for someone to design and build a legal deck. Any recommendations?
The rules regarding things like decks exist so that fires don’t spread from house to house, for instance. Their not ridiculous; they are concerned with public safety. Think crane accidents, and then imagine your deck not being properly built…
you dont need a permit to do that type of landscaping work.
according to DoB pamphlet:
“A deck or porch is a raised floor, supported by structural framing above the surrounding ground at the level of the first story of a house.”
I’m not sure what you are supposed to do when you want a deck below the first story of a house instead of putting down pavers.
I’m with the last poster, but I’d draw the line at attaching to poured footings.
Well, those who inhabit a parallel universe have spoken above. “Concrete furniture?” Where’s that from?
Is this not a ground-level deck? Or do you have concrete on your roof? What you seem to be describing can be done off-site easily, then installed in one day. I don’t know anyone who would bother getting a permit.
Now, if this is a first-floor deck in spite of your description, that’s another matter entirely.
You really ought to get it permitted. When we bought our townhouse, there was an absurd, huge (15′ deep), ugly ass pressure-treated wood deck on the back, and of course no permit had been filed for it. We had a private agreement with the sellers that if the illegality of the deck were to cause a problem with the sale (as in, the bank refusing to finance unless it be remedied) that they’d pay to have it demolished and rebuilt within legal parameters. Of course, no one ever thought it would be a problem, and it wasn’t. Until three years later, when my charming neighbor issued a complaint against both me and the house adjacent to me. The DOB came and gave us one month to tear out the illegal decks or face massive fines. No big deal for us, really, since we wanted it torn out anyway. So, lesson learned, we pulled a permit and had an architect design us a legal structure. As you know, they are extremely specific about what you can and cannot do. Moveable concrete furniture? I don’t think so. Steel deck, steel frame. 8′ maximum depth. Of course, you can go longer than 8 depending on what’s below, and if you’re clever about stair placement, and you can put wood over the steel provided it’s not structural, but remember…someday when you sell the house you can proceed with the confidence that the deck is in good standing, and that’s going to be worth more than the filing and architect fees. Good luck.
I’m with 3:08.
Do yourself a favor and do it properly from the outset. Having a neighbor snitch on you will give you more problems than merely taking the time & trouble to file for a DOB permit. If everyone else needs a DOB permit to build a deck, then so do you.