Which comes first: Windows or Facade?
Need some help on the timing between facade work and replacing windows. We have a typical 4 story in PS that needs to have the facade tucked, pointed, sealed and painted. We also need to replace all the windows. I’m wondering which should be done first? I’ve gotten conflicting advice from the respective contractors (of…
Need some help on the timing between facade work and replacing windows. We have a typical 4 story in PS that needs to have the facade tucked, pointed, sealed and painted. We also need to replace all the windows.
I’m wondering which should be done first?
I’ve gotten conflicting advice from the respective contractors (of course!). The windows guy says do windows first, so that they can be sealed along with the facade restoration.
The waterproofer/facade guy says that the windows should be done last as they could be damaged and that any waterproofing contractor is going to charge more if they have to go to great lengths to protect the windows.
Anyone have any thoughts on/experience with this?
We’re thinking of using Metro for the waterproofing and BayRidge Windows.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Tom,
Would love to know who you used for installation and for refacing….thanks for your thoughtful comments.
Breukelyn
Tom, Who did you use for your refacing job?
Just a small note of caution about Bay Ridge Windows – lousy installation, – not surprising considering how drunk the senior fellow was, never fixed the screen that arrived stretched and sagging or the windows that wouldn’t stay closed, and never responded to our oral or written requests to see if we could get any of this straightened out. Did not check the wood frames as promised, no knowledge of energy conservation. We filed a BB complaint.
Why? The question was what to do first, not a quote comparison…troll.
Wouldya? Why?
I’d try WindowsWeAre as well as Bay Ridge for quotes, just to compare.
I’ll second what Tom say’s. This is what we recomend. This way there is no chance of damage to the facade, openings stay the same (usually) and there is a nice small caulk joint.
We had replacement windows put in before our facade work was done, as we were not sure what we were going to do with the facade. Well, our facade guy is very good, but they ruined the windows. The aluminum capping became all discolored from whatever chemicals they used on the facade and the caulking shrunk. The guys were supposed to use a soft brush to clean the gunk off my windows and now my new windows are all scratched. I brought this to the attention of the owner, but what am I going to do. Later, I paid the window co. to come back and replace all the capping, because it looked like crap and I couldn’t stand it any longer. Live and learn. I’m too tired to fight with anyone over this.
Just did all of this. I had a new brownstone facade redone, so i am not sure how your process will differ. I had the facade chipped away and a scratch coat put on, then the brownstone. Since my windows were a new “brick-to-brick” installation and not replacement windows, the window guy told me the new windows had to go in after the scratch coat and before the final coat of brownstone. This way the mason could put the finish coat right up to the new windows nice and clean. Had the facade been finished first, there was the chance the opening would be too small and the new windows wouldn’t fit.
So the facade work started in March, I ordered the windows in April, scratch coat was finished by May. I waited until September for the windows (took a long time, got 22 Marvin windows). And now the final brownstone coat has just been finished. My facade guys were VERY PROFESSIONAL and VERY CAREFUL about my windows. No extra charge, they are just very good. Also in this mix is the iron workers that are scraping and painted the metal work, that one I saved for last and hope they are neat, especially when they re-weld the original ground floor window gaurds back in place.
If redoing your facade doesn’t involve changing the widow openings, DEFINATELY have that done first.
Good luck