Fast paint stripping on tin ceiling continued
To the original poster – I just read your new comment about paint removal from the tin by hitting the tin. If the tin has lead paint on it (likely if old tin) then it sounds like you have just created a massive health hazard for you, your tenants and especially their baby. Lead has…
To the original poster – I just read your new comment about paint removal from the tin by hitting the tin. If the tin has lead paint on it (likely if old tin) then it sounds like you have just created a massive health hazard for you, your tenants and especially their baby. Lead has been proven to cause significant brain damage amongst other health problems and is especially toxic to young children & babies. I advise you to get a lead blood test for yourself, have the apartment tested for lead dust and until the results are in put your tenants in alternative accomodation. If you don’t do this and there is an unsafe lead level in the blood of the baby you could be open to litigation.
No, actually many borderline retarded people appear normal. They did not come in for treatment because of retardation, this info is secondary in my contact with them.
I know several people who experienced lead poisoning as children. All are borderline or fully retarded. How would you know the result unless you ask around. My job gives me this info as part of an intake process(mental health). Many people have had their IQ’s adversely effected by lead without even knowing it (not to mention organ problems etc…). Just because you don’t see people with signs around their necks does not make this a fantasy problem.
I’m sorry you had a bad experience. Anecdotally, we all know of adverse effects from lead.
It has to be put in perspective. All paints had lead 20-30 years ago. Are you saying that babies then somehow were immune to lead and are not now? It’s just that we are more prone to fears now, and less risk-averse.
poster 9:47, I have to agree with the “scare tactic” poster. We lived in a renovated apt. when my daughter was a baby. Even though we could see no remains of the renovation when we moved in, our baby’s lead level rose dramatically over a short period of time. We only realized this because we had switched doctors and the new doctor insisted on running her own labs. So, we go two lead levels over a three month period, one right before we moved, and one three months after the move. Our doctor told us to get our baby out of there and not bring her back until the place was lead abated. We opted to move. We could have sued the landlord, and many people would have. The mis-information here is from posters who downgrade the severity of lead, and who don’t realize that babies spend most of their day sucking on their own fingers and toes which transmits the lead dust to their system.
And further, please keep in mind the web is FULL of dis- and mis-information. Anyone looking for info who’s even a teeny bit anxious will be paranoid after a few searches, happens to me all the time on medical issues…if you’re really worried, have a lead test and forget about it.
Oh please! Anon at 10:41 certainly opened a hornet’s nest.
Unless you’re below 5 or drinking lead paint there’s little danger from the dust or otherwise. It’s a scare tactic serving to keep the lead abatment indutry in business. Remember, there were no “lead issues” a few decades ago and those of us 40 are still alive. What we all need is a course in risk assessmment.
Sorry for giving you such a fright. It sounds like you are decent people who took reasonable care but I still advise getting the place tested. Babies can ingest lead from dust that settles on the floor (licked from fingers or toys etc). The fine dust apparently can sit in the air for some time. Perhaps get an air cleaner (eg Venta airwasher?) or filter. If you google “lead inspector ny” you will see links for inspectors – make sure they are licensed.
My post was colored by our experience renting from landlords who don’t keep our wellbeing in mind (in prev places incl illegal dangerous demo & renovation, peeling paint, mold… let alone no heat some time during winter etc) and now we are dealing with lead issues in a house we are struggling to renovate. I had images of you taking minimal precautions in the rush and was very concerned.
Owning a house can be very difficult given responsibilities but it can be worse as a responsible tenant with an irresponsible landlord ==> lack of control.
To the homeowner – go to http://www.oldhouseweb.com and type in “lead paint” on their discussion boards. There have been many informative discussions about lead paint there, by old house owners from all over the country. Some people have cited some excellent advice, literature and practical solutions for dealing with lead paint. For what it’s worth, the practical solutions were to do exactly what you have done.
Please don’t panic or start hating your home. You are aware of a potential hazard, and have taken steps to neutralize it. By all means test for lead to reassure yourself and to show the tenant. I think you will have done all that you could, outside of spending a fortune to completely strip the house, which is a waste of time and money.
Actually yes, he scared me to death 🙁
I can not sleep. Me and my husband talked and we decided that we will paint this whole room first thing next morning: the whole ceiling, all walls trims and windows surround. Also, I doublecheck and wipe floors in adjoining rooms. Doorways were covered by plastic, but just to be on the safe side.
Now I hate homeownership!
We will order test. I can not keep my mouth shut with my tenants, it goes againts me, I have to tell them that we have to test room for lead.