Best Roofing Technique?
We are looking to have a new roof installed on our brownstone and have met with a number of roofers. All the lower quotes use the torch down method as opposed to the adhesive method. We’ve heard about torching down on wood frame houses are now illegal but are confused as to why most roofers…
We are looking to have a new roof installed on our brownstone and have met with a number of roofers. All the lower quotes use the torch down method as opposed to the adhesive method. We’ve heard about torching down on wood frame houses are now illegal but are confused as to why most roofers we’ve had come out bid on torching down a rubber roof. In terms of effectiveness and durability, do torched down roofs work just as well as adhesive based roofs? Has anyone else gone through a similar dilemma?
gboek, torching roofs is Against The Law in New York City on any building; unless, the roof has a CONCRETE deck. Torch roofing is also an inferior product when compared to SBS. That guy Nick is right. So much for the “integrity” of the contractor.
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We are in the middle of a new construction and the roofer placed a 1 ply torch down membrane under a tile roof. Since the roof tiles were going to take 24 weeks to arrive, he suggested that we upgrade to this membrane to protect the house until they arrived. The problem is he never told us how expensive this membrane was verses the original 2-ply membrance. He quoted us $200 a square foot and said he was giving us a $100 break(I guess they should be $300.00 sq. foot). This was alot more than he lead us to believe. What is the cost difference between the two membranes? Also, do roofer usually include the vents and drains in their materials bids. He is now telling us that the vents and drains are separate from his original bid and handed us a $1900.00 bill for 12 copper lead jacks (I think these are vent covers). Once again, he never gave us any options before going ahead and ordering these jacks and installing them. At the end his bid came to $15,000.00 over the original bid. Never did he said anything about the increases until the job was almost finished. We are not sure what we can do at this point other than investigating what the actual cost are and what is normal roofing practices. We want to make sense of this increase and think we may be getting ripped off. He is 3/4 finished and we urgently need some advise before paying him the remaining balance.
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I have a commercial building with a flat top, 6000 sq foot foot print, ten sky lights etc. Building 45 yo. I have ponding in several areas and have a 12 yo torch dorn done very inexpensively. I have two activie leaks and have had six different bids. The bids range from; PVC, EPDM, Asphalt torch down and Firestone APP torch down and lastly a bid to give some pitch. The bids are ranging as follows. The pitch roof: $64 K, The PVC $32K with no removal, the EPDM over the old materail $22K and the Torch downs: Firestone APP at $32 K and an Asphalt two layers at $18K both removal of old material. You can see there is many variables and a great difference in price. I will own the building for the next 20 yrs. and am looking for the right product. The firestone bid stated he is the “cadalac”!? After much research and I being a small business. I cant see spending over $25 – $30K. I own only 55% of this littel project. I think a torch down is the most most cost effective and biggest bang the buck Guarantees sound worthless, and the firestone bid is banking on the warantee; again 6000sg ft at $32 K and more to cut in more scuppers later?!?!?!? I am confused and tired of the bidding game.
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sounds to me as if you have reason to be concerned. torch down material should be heated evenly across the roll. you should notice a flow of melted material from the overlap seam of about an inch or so. shouldnt have air pockets under the material. lots of reasons these occur. you could be correct that the way the heat is being applied to the roll is causing these. could be improperly nailed fiberglass base sheet. could be wet material. unfortunately without actually seeing the work its impossible to know.
Hi, Please Help.
We are in the middle of a torch down project and I am very concerned that it is beiing installed improperly. Can any one answer this question? The roofer is appling alot of heat to the overlap seam edge but much less heat to the middle of the roll and outer edge. Currently, the product that has been laid has numerous visible air pockets, indicating that the product is not fully adhered to the base sheet. This seems wrong but the installer insists it is correct. My previous home had a torch down on a dormer addition and there were no apparent air pockets.Thanks for any advice.
Well said gboek, In my 30 years in the roofing industry I have Never had a problem with any
Torch down job I have done. You don’t just hand
some rookie a torch and say GO. like you said,
If done correctly with the right material AND
the right experience you should have no problems
with the roof. One more thing I’d like to add,
like you said gboek, there is no reason to coat
the roof every year.By the way, aluminum coatings
are for reflective purposes only, they are not
supposed to be used for waterproofing. It says
it right there on the side of the bucket!
done correctly app torch down roofing is second to hot tar roofing which is still the king of roofs. apparently nick doesnt know how to roof using this material. you dont just torch to the old roofing material, you dont have to coat the roof every year, they do have granulated torch app, and if done as recommended a torch down roof over any living areas will be a two ply roofing system with the finished layer being granular. ive done these for 25 years and to date no leaks, no call backs and many satisfied customers. any roof has its pitfall but what it comes down to is the knowledge, integrity and the conscience of the contractor.
I don’t know who the heck is saying I posted a response on January 15th. Calling Leak Master a paid piper for SBS but I do not appreciate it.
I just asked which roof we had bids for was the best. Someone is crazy out there. I for sure have no agenda other than wanting advice from an expert. Who was I misguiding by that? Something or someone is mixed up here on this site.
Arlene