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March 12, 2009
Getting to the basement

Well! The day before I was supposed to cash my refund check, twenty-seven weeks after I ordered them, the shower doors showed up from Brooklyn Kitchens. And they look pretty good, we think. (Although the master bath has a leak at a seam, so a service call will be in order).
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124471
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124457
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124474
Downstairs bath here.
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124475
Meanwhile if you’ve been following along, you recall that the stairs to the second floor were too short, and didn’t completely make the platform. This was solved by putting a ‘box’ at the top of the stairs and pushing them forward.
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124473
As we come to an end, one of the biggest nightmares has been the amount of dust that just doesn’t stop. I’ve realized that the basement ceiling, sheet rocked in 1968 and with many holes, has been capturing dust and debris for decades, as well as new stuff from the renovation. We decided that whether or not we had the money to do some basement finishing, the ceiling had to go. This is a perfect project for a homeowner to do to save money; not difficult or technical, just dirty, dusty, and time consuming. But we got it all down and out in the space of a few weeks. Here’s the space with the ceiling as was.
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124481
I’ve taken a couple of shots of ceiling pieces as they came down, to show what was sitting on top of them. Nasty!
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124477
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/image/110124476
The worst spot was below where the old kitchen and bath were. The plumbing had leaked for years, the joists had to be replaced there, but they had tried to reinforce it by nailing boards under the plumbing and filling in with cindacrete. That was vile getting down.
Getting rid of the debris was timed to not call any attention to ourselves. Everything went into black plastic bags, but nothing too heavy. Two bags in front of our house, and two bags in front of a just-converted rental with no tenants a few doors down. One sometimes up the block mixed in with trash from a larger apt building. Twice a week for a few weeks and no problems.
We’ve now come to the point where we have to decide what to do about the basement. As avid readers and book collectors, our library is about three thousand volumes. In our previous coop, we had space for about half, and the balance was in a storage place, which is now up to $250 per month. Our plan was to turn half of the basement (500 sft or so) into a library, but only if that would not put books at risk. (The other half is boiler, storage, tools, etc.).
We are two blocks from the highest point in Brooklyn, and we have been here fifteen months without the slightest whiff of mold, mildew, sewage, or water. We have done calcium chloride tests on the concrete floor, and moisture tests on the walls (thx smokychimp for that suggestion). We seem to be as dry as can be. And frankly I’d be equally afraid to try and pack a library in an upper floor of a small house without reinforcing the floor.
At the same time, we are pretty broke after this reno. We asked our GC for a price to ‘rock walls and ceiling, and tile the floor as cheaply as possible. His price was $19,000. That was very discouraging as we really can’t swing that right now. We decided to see if we could do it ourselves, maybe with friends, maybe just stripping and painting the walls, so we asked for some advice about the walls.
http://www.brownstoner.com/forum/archives/2009/02/what_to_do_abou_4.php#comments
Thanks to that post, a contractor had an interesting suggestion, and we invited him over to take a look. To make a long story short, he quoted us less than half of what our GC did, which is manageable, and we retained him to start.
Please see
http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/basement
for a series of pix on progress.
Naturally our GC was not happy, altho he didn’t express it. But he did say, yesterday, that his office person had made a mistake and that the 19k was for the WHOLE basement. The HALF that we wanted was 11k. He would have got the job for that, but, that’s not what we remember.
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Comments
What is the width of the bathroom door? It look very narrow.
Posted by: zuffy at March 13, 2009 4:46 PM
I'm guessing that's a closet door, not the entrance to the room.
Posted by: christopher at March 13, 2009 5:06 PM
Where did you get your shower doors. Very nice !
Posted by: crownheights2007 at March 13, 2009 5:19 PM
Zuffy, like Christopher said, that's a closet door. That's a big walk-thru closet that goes into the master bedroom on the other side. The main door into the bathroom is a standard 30" door. Having said that, that door is a 22" door. It was supposed to be 24", according to the plans. But when the architect drew up the plans he failed to notice a 2" jog-out in the wall there, so we had to reduce it accordingly.
(Did someone say you'd never have a problem if you used an architect?)
CH2007, they came from a sub of Brooklyn Kitchens. They are nice, I admit. But you must be new to this blog, else you'd know I've been waiting six months for them!
If you like them, you have permission to print a photo of them and tale it to someone, anyone else, for a price :-)
Posted by: denton at March 13, 2009 10:14 PM
Yeah, yeah, get the dig in about architects.... ; p. Don't worry I'm patient and you like to post, so we'll take it up at the next opportunity!
Posted by: Schultz at March 14, 2009 6:46 PM
Ok, so denton, this basement is a true basement as in a cellar? and not as in a ground floor/1st floor/garden level? i am guessing that by the looks of the small windows. Can you recap your floor plan/layout? i think it's great to have an extra bathroom in the basement/cellar? it could be a guest suite.
Posted by: bkny at March 20, 2009 3:11 PM
Hello Denton,
I love the bathroom. I am in the process of getting a bathroom renovation in NJ where I live. As I was looking at the clawfoot tub you have. Do you know of any company that can reglaze a tub. I have an old clawfoot that I would love to put in my bath.
Posted by: kamalny1 at July 21, 2009 2:48 PM
Need a new Bathroom or Kitchen. My bathrooms start at 7.000.00 and that includes material new walls ,new floor , sheetrock,durock for shower or tub area, american standard bowl sink, facet, the only thing I don't purchase is the tile, If there is any high end fictures requested by the owner or customer he or she will pay the diffrent in the price of it,
This is some of what I have done in the past year
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Posted by: steven2667 at August 24, 2009 10:05 AM

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