Dolkart Down on Prospects for "Fringe Areas"
We were excited to read the interview in The Times last weekend with Andrew Dolkart, a man who has probably done more work to preserve historic Brooklyn neighborhoods than just about anyone in recent years. This segment from the Columbia University professor of historic preservation really jumped out at us: I was doing a project…
We were excited to read the interview in The Times last weekend with Andrew Dolkart, a man who has probably done more work to preserve historic Brooklyn neighborhoods than just about anyone in recent years. This segment from the Columbia University professor of historic preservation really jumped out at us:
I was doing a project recently in Clinton Hill, in Brooklyn, and I wandered east into what was always a fringe area, an industrial area between Clinton Hill and Bedford-Stuyvesant. People were building luxury apartment houses! And I was thinking, even then, a couple of years ago, why would I spend a million dollars to live on the corner of Quincy and Franklin Streets, which is basically in the middle of nowhere? It’s not really in a neighborhood at all. I think buildings like that are going to suffer. Their developers invested in areas where people are not going to be so likely to spend that much money.
The location he discusses is just a block or so from here.
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“It’s not really in a neighborhood at all.”
Thank goodness people who think that are not moving in any more.
buecheler – I’m sure you’ll be able to get a small brick townhouse in the streets btw hoyt and bond and even smith and hoyt for substantially less than 1mill v. soon, since at their peak they were barely past 1 mill. I’m assuming the one I bought for 1.1 will go down to 600k.
Vanderbilt Avenue, I think? Is the cut-off.
BrooklynGreene – No offense intended. Fort Greene has many lovely blocks that I would happily live on, including one that a friend of mine simply calls “The Beautiful Street” (I think it’s S. Oxford but not sure).
Honestly, I am a little blurry on the exact boundary between FG and CH. Looks like roughly the eastern edge of the park?
I hear there have been many muggings in Park Slope.
C. W. Buecheler, aren’t you interested in Fort Greene?! You left us out! It has great transportation access, the park, the farmers’ market, lots of restaurants and food stores.
No, but according to you Pitbull you may be mobbed by unruly teenagers. Obviously the streetscape and scenery walking from GAP into Park Slope is prettier/safer than that into the Bed-Stuy/CH borderland, but that wasn’t the point being made. And of course there was a time when Park Slope was much more dangerous than it is now.
Also, while it’s true that Center and South Slope are largely tied to the F, North Slope has pretty excellent subway access. I live on 7th at Union and I’m a not-terrible walk from the B,Q,M,R,2,3, and F. Compared to when I used to live on 88th and 1st in Manhattan, it’s fantastic.
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you know, park slope doesn’t really have great subway access, yet somehow people continue to survive. personally i don’t see quincy & franklin as the middle of nowhere. it’s not that far from the subway (okay, the C), i lived near there for many years; friends of mine still live there. it’s not the middle of nowhere to the people who live there.
but you’re not going to get mugged, beaten, or stabbed walking to those subway stops.
-r
you know, park slope doesn’t really have great subway access, yet somehow people continue to survive. personally i don’t see quincy & franklin as the middle of nowhere. it’s not that far from the subway (okay, the C), i lived near there for many years; friends of mine still live there. it’s not the middle of nowhere to the people who live there.
anyway, to his point of luxury condos in desolate areas, i’m all for it! who better to live in no-mans land but the affluent, who not only can afford sparklin new condos, but also probably have cars and the means to go out and get the groceries, or freshdirect, or vases or whatever rich people go out to buy. let’s build some luxury hi-rises in the Flatlands. put in underground parking and rake it in!