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July 22, 2008
commercial overlay
Could someone please explain exactly how a commercial overlay works? My big question is do you basically take the FAR of the commercial overlay and add it to the FAR of the residential zone to achieve the max FAR (providing of course that the floor area of each use does not exceed its component FAR)?
Than can you just add the FAR for the community facility the same way?
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Flatbushwhacker:
Thank you very much for the reply. I'd like to follow this up with another question to make this crystal clear to me.
We're in an R6 district with a C1-1 overlay. The overlay gives me FAR 2, and we can do the quality housing thing, so the FAR for Residential is 3, as you said.
I look at the table (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/zone/zh_tables.pdf#r6-r7) and see that the community facility can be 4.8 for R6QH, as you already pointed out.
So according to what you say, all this means I can build a maximum of 4.8 overall, made up of let's say 3.0 of residential and 1.8 of commercial (or 2.8 of residential and 2.0 commercial - or somewhere between the two cases), instead of 5.0 made up of 3.0 of residential and 2.0 of commercial.
Likewise, you're saying I would not be able to just add them all together: 2.0 commercial + 3.0 residential + 4.8 community facility = 9.8 FAR overall, right?
Thanks again
Posted by: tempaccount at July 22, 2008 2:20 PM in response to commercial overlay
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What happened to the poor woman whose neighbor was complaining about her cherry blossoms blowing into his yard? Maybe we'll hear from her again next spring.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 22, 2008 2:35 PM in response to trees in front of your neighbor's house?
For practical purposes you can only do 2.0 FAR of commercial if it's a purely commercial building. If it's a mixed-use building, commercial uses cannot be above the first floor, effectively limiting you to something less than 1.0 FAR, since part of your first floor needs to be lobby spaces for upstairs uses. You could have a full-coverage first floor, but upper floors have to provide a rear yard.
You can have as much commercial use in the cellar as you want, since the cellar doesn't count as floor area. But you'd probably need to use your cellar for parking, since C1-1 has a very high parking requirement for commercial uses.
If you're at all serious about this, you need to hire an architect who really knows NYC zoning, and have him look at your site and tell you what's permitted and what's feasible.
Posted by: Flatbushwhacker at July 22, 2008 2:56 PM in response to commercial overlay
See last paragraph of Flatbushwhacker's 2:56 post. There are a whole bunch of permutations and combinations (e.g.: corner lot, through lot, historic district) beyond the ones OP identified (community facility bonus, quality housing program). It really makes sense to hire professional assistance.
Posted by: g man at July 22, 2008 4:26 PM in response to commercial overlay
I'm the person. I told my neighbor that I requested a tree in front of his house, and I woke up the next morning with a severed horse's head in my bed.
Just kidding. I still haven't decided one way or another. The general consensus from the original thread seemed to be that it is completely fine to request a tree for a tree pit in from of someone else's house. I think your viewpoint will affect how you frame the issue - "requesting a tree from the city in front of someone else's house" versus "requesting a tree from the city on the public sidewalk down the block from your home."
Posted by: brooklynguy at July 23, 2008 10:01 AM in response to trees in front of your neighbor's house?
Brooklynguy,
I hear you, but I really strongly suggest to avoid horse heads or any other type of drama to you speak to your neighbor first. You can look at it any way you want to fit your viewpoint. But being a considerate neighbor is not a viewpoint.
Posted by: brooklynjennie at July 23, 2008 11:01 AM in response to trees in front of your neighbor's house?
I just can't see how a tree would be an issue. The street is public and the tree is good for the environment and beautifies the street. If nothing else, wouldn't it increase property values to be on a lovely tree lined block?
Of course speak to the neighbor, and I understand that the neighbor would be responsible to keeping the sidewalk clear of leaves and such but let's be real, how much of a big deal is that? Just me but I think it's a little much to worry about whether or not the neighbor wants the tree over the greater good.
Posted by: bxgrl at July 23, 2008 6:18 PM in response to trees in front of your neighbor's house?
who decides the "greater good"?
Posted by: brooklynjennie at July 25, 2008 10:28 AM in response to trees in front of your neighbor's house?
You should take the advise of Flatbushwhacker, find an Architect within the NYC limits.
Posted by: Bklyn1 at August 6, 2008 10:01 AM in response to commercial overlay

I don't know. What DID happen to the guy who wanted to put a tree in front of someone else's house?
Posted by: tempaccount at July 22, 2008 2:23 PM in response to trees in front of your neighbor's house?