Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Why the hostility? Its not an unreasonable question when moving to a new neighborhood in NYC.

Posted by: slopehead at December 4, 2007 3:27 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

OK, I see that I was stepping into a forum with older issues about this type of thing, but please know that I am 100% sincerely looking to move into a brand new neighborhood, am NOT IN ANY WAY RACIST, but am a young woman and would be asking the same question about ANY neighborhood I was considering. I work at night and will be taking the subway, so am merely asking for suggestions about the safest routes, or if there are any notorious areas to be avoided. And yes, what worries me is that the area seems deserted, so if anyone, white, black, pink or green tried to hurt me, no one would know.

I hope someone with knowledge of the area can give me some sincere advice.

Thanks.

Posted by: slopehead at December 4, 2007 5:12 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Would you prefer walking down Bedford or Eastern Pkwy?

Posted by: slopehead at December 4, 2007 10:14 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

OK, thanks for the advice. If I may ask just one more question erring on the side of caution, is there any route that you would recommend I avoid? I will be walking home by myself around 11pm most nights.

Thanks again.

Posted by: slopehead at December 5, 2007 12:48 AM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Yes, thank you to the last poster. While I get that racism is a relevant and extremely important issue, it's not the reason I started this post. Perhaps a better question would be:

Does anyone on this message board live near Medgar Evers? Can you recommend the most efficient subway stop?

Seriously. Those who are hyper-paranoid about people asking about safety seem to have it a little backwards. Safety is universal. It has nothing to do with COLOR. It may have something to do with rumors of CRIME in a given area. That's not racism, that's just common sense. As I am sure you're aware, most urban crime is the product of the economy, not of someone's skin color. I'm not looking to move into some rich neighborhood on a tree-lined block. I'm looking where I can afford to live. And I'm trying to inform myself about the neighborhood BEFORE I'm walking around alone late at night.

Posted by: slopehead at December 5, 2007 12:40 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Maybe yours is a legitimate question but check the forum; these "is it safe" questions are almost always attempts to start fights by fake posters, otherwise known as "trolls" looking to stir the racial pot and fill this board with lurid frightening nonsense for fun. I have been reading the forum for a long time (gave up on the other part) and can't count how many of these kinds of posts I have read.

Posted by: guest at December 4, 2007 4:04 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

I'm thinking of starting a post titled "are you scared of black people" just for the hell of it

Posted by: guest at December 4, 2007 4:19 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

guest 3:11, 4:04, and 4:19 -- I agree sometimes trolls do post to get a reaction, but the wording of this post was not inflammatory, and it's not the original poster's fault if a troll answers it this way.

As a woman, I read this post and what struck me as the OP's concern was the fact of it being "deserted" -- that's what I hate at night. It's much more safe to have people and open businesses around and the color of the people around you doesn't matter -- just that there ARE people around so you aren't walking down some lonely stretch at night. So it's responders who are trying to stir a racial pot when there is absolutely no need to do so.

Posted by: guest at December 4, 2007 4:41 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

OK, I see that I was stepping into a forum with older issues about this type of thing, but please know that I am 100% sincerely looking to move into a brand new neighborhood, am NOT IN ANY WAY RACIST, but am a young woman and would be asking the same question about ANY neighborhood I was considering. I work at night and will be taking the subway, so am merely asking for suggestions about the safest routes, or if there are any notorious areas to be avoided. And yes, what worries me is that the area seems deserted, so if anyone, white, black, pink or green tried to hurt me, no one would know.

I hope someone with knowledge of the area can give me some sincere advice.

Thanks.

Posted by: slopehead at December 4, 2007 5:12 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Wouldn't the President Street stop on the '2' be closer than Franklin ?

I use the Prospect Park stop on the Q and it's quite safe, but a loooong walk from Medgar Evers

Posted by: Bob Marvin at December 4, 2007 5:58 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Eastern Parkway is always busy.... I would get off at the stop closer to the Parkway..

Posted by: guest at December 4, 2007 9:02 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Would you prefer walking down Bedford or Eastern Pkwy?

Posted by: slopehead at December 4, 2007 10:14 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

Most people aren't hurt by opportunists but by people who they know or at least, those who know them. You might be better off rotating randomly between the stops instead of creating a pattern that some ill-willed observer sees.

Posted by: guest at December 4, 2007 11:10 PM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

OK, thanks for the advice. If I may ask just one more question erring on the side of caution, is there any route that you would recommend I avoid? I will be walking home by myself around 11pm most nights.

Thanks again.

Posted by: slopehead at December 5, 2007 12:48 AM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?

First of all, if this is really about safety, then go get to know the area instead of depending on the anonymous advice of a handful of strangers on the internets. This doesn't seem like an effective strategy for getting to know whether or not a neighborhood is actually sparse at night or whatever.

Besides, crime rates in all five boroughs are at an all-time low, and people tend to be victimized by people who know them and not strangers.

People who say "is it safe" tend to be the same people who, if you continue the conversation, wind up saying "and then I was the only white face on the train!" in order to tell you that they then felt unsafe.

Not saying that this is what the OP is doing, just saying that this line of questioning looks really useless if it's about safety...

...but it seems like a great way to ask, in code, whether or not there are white people in the neighborhood.

I am just speaking from my own experience. I asked similar questions when I moved to Bed Stuy, and was, thankfully, forced to be honest about what I was asking, and learned a thing or two about how racism works, and I grew up considerably.

Posted by: guest at December 5, 2007 7:38 AM in response to Crown Heights near Medgar Evers Safe?