"Actually, a lot of people do still care."

No one that matters

Posted by: fsrg at November 2, 2009 5:11 PM

Well you are still posting, so you must care, and so...I guess your opinion don't matter either?

You a flinging accusations at an organization. Calling DDDB propaganda is simply hilarious. Once again spewing nonsense about trust funds and lies. Yet you continue to support a billionaire developer, which by nature is pretty much not exactly the people's kind of people.
Get a grip.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at November 3, 2009 8:30 AM in response to Uncertainty, Skepticism Around Arena Bond Offering

It is a "wasteland" because Ratner made it so. Simple. The "movie set" you see was created by Ratner, he is director, and he is controlling you all quite well. The buildings that were there, were not falling apart.

As for coverage "on the other side," they get to be in bed with the NY Times enough said. If you don't like that, take it up with Bloomberg who wants to get rid of the Public Advocate.

Boo hoo rich developer and Russian Oligarch are not getting their just coverage on Brownstoner? Spare us.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 20, 2009 9:41 AM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

antidope

"i also am a bit mystified by the uproar that moving a renter seems to cause. i'm for old folks and all but i don't understand why living as a renter somewhere for 10-, 20-, or 40-years entitles one to live in the same place ad infinitum. RS laws take care of these situations. if we don't like the results let's start by changing RS rules.

this of course also makes me a bull on AY."

Perhaps it does not entitle you, but when the argument by the so called "community" that is all for the taking, to build an arena, cry out, "we were born and raised here," etc. ad finitum" blah blah blah it kind of puts a hole in the public opinion.
Tenants have no rights what so ever, they will be no "taking care of."

Not everyone can be bought, but many folks on here think that is the bottom line. If you get "paid" then bend over for a rich developer from Cleveland, who resides on the upper east side, who has bought the part of the community that he needed to (BUILD) in order to make you believe that you and the public will benefit from this.

Partnering with ACORN was just a disguise to look like he gives a crap about low income people, or even basketball for that matter. Take the usual protestors, pay them off, shut them up and there you go.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 7:36 PM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

Hmm brokedeveloper, I guess it is NIMBY, because I don't want 19 luxury condo buildings that won't be available to any actual low income people who live in the neighborhood and I don't want an arena that will stand to only align the pockets of Bruce Ratner and a Russian Billionaire, who probably can not even locate this project on a map, in my backyard. You are right, if that is NIMBY so be it. Finally.

East New York
" There has been no public referendum on this project, so how can you say most people do not support it?"

Exactly, prove otherwise.

and

"If someone came along and offered me a solid 2-2.5X what the market value for my apartment, then yeah, I wouldn't mind stepping aside."

Again, nice fantasy. Since that was and never will be the case, it is hard to believe you would move aside for a wealthy developer and a billionaire Oligarch.
In fact I bet you would not even move for a shelter, or an actual public use.
Let's hope you are never forced to answer the question truly.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 7:29 PM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

And, thanks Montrose, for your sanity. The real bottom line is this is a blog based on mostly anonymous opinions. Ratner does not give a rats ass what we think that is for sure. And if these posts exemplify what an actual neighbor is, then perhaps it is time to move on.
It is very easy to point fingers with out considering what it is like to walk in someone else's shoes. Nasty uneducated uninformed name calling is easy, easy. It takes integrity to try and understand the situation around you, with out blind faith. I ain't buying any of it. The whole thing wreaks of robbery and corruption. There are facts to back that up, infinite. But ultimately it is my belief and opinion, and I will as such continue to fight, despite the vicious name calling that goes on in a blog post.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 3:02 PM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

northflatbushgirl
Actually there were a ton of businesses there, Ratner kicked them out.
Businesses actually have opened, but they have not thrived because, Ratner pushed out the residents who would have gone there.

Let's build the arena, on your apartment, would you mind stepping aside, miss big mouth?

Yeah, did not think so.

But sure go on schilling for Bruce Ratner, I'm sure he'll be there for you when you need a job and an affordable living space. Right.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 2:55 PM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

denton, proof that he runs his buildings well, please?

Hires good people? LIke the guys at the AY hearings who yell out death threats? Please.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 12:17 PM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

Wow, the working class renter who lives in the footprint is not comprehensible or relevant and does not make sense to you brokedeveloper or idisagree? Frightening.

Maybe that is the whole problem, you have no clue that there are people involved. You only like numbers. You think a pile of cash ( evidence of this please) is the answer to all problems? Sad. You have no clue about the raw deals, the gag orders, the drilling, the lack of heat in the buildings on and on. You can't understand that? Does not bode well for your over intellectualized points. Where is this pile of cash? To quote FSRG, you cite no sources. You believe what you want to believe to make it feel right for you. That is your free will. Good for you. Their free will? Really? A senior citizen who lived in his building for over 40 years, has a choice? He can live in the hellish conditions, that Ratner has created in the footprint, or he can use his "free will" to take approximately 80,000 to relocate his 40 years of living, memories, said good bye to his neighbors on and on. So I don't think I'm hyperbolizing. If it's preaching a human story, so be it. There are no piles of cash but for the ones Ratner will surely sit on if this project goes through.

You find that irrelevant and incomprehensible? I can live with that.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 11:11 AM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

Benson
Thanks for the compliment I guess.
I don't need to cite a study, I am a citizen that lives here, just like you or fsrg, I'm not a researcher beyond that I just walk out my door and go meet people who live in the city I live in, over the years. If that is a political web site rant, so be it.

You know who is not working class? Billionaire Oligarchs from Russia, Bruce Ratner who lives in the richest district in NYC, Bloomberg etc. I don't think I need to cite some long winded study to know that fact. Sorry if the average citizen does not feel pleased when their tax dollars goes towards these fat cat's enrichment, when senior citizen benefits are being cut, when the governor is having to cut every other service in the state practically. ( Sorry no study attached).

No one said anything about gagging women, or the the Taliban, or likening Bruce Ratner to such a thing. That is the response of someone who just wants to create incongruent drama. You are clearly the one who could use a walk, putting ridiculous images and statements to my post.

A gag order, which apparently you need a citing or definition to understand, is not gagging someone literally, dear. It means you are forced out and must sign a contract that says you can not speak. You are not bought out, you are possibly relocated, to a place you probably can not afford. And you do this for 19 luxury high rises, and a sports stadium. No one is likening that to the atrocities of Darfur of the unfathomable gender inequality in the world, so spare us your demagogue finger pointing.

The point is, show us a picture of yourself, then point your finger about things you clearly know nothing about, that are easy enough to find out. One does not need to cite a study to recognize corruption.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 10:59 AM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards

When will people like "fsrg" ever get off this thing and do a little research. You have no idea ever about what you are saying. If you would take a little time to understand, you might walk the block. You might me the WORKING CLASS TENANTS such as Ms. R - who is a renter, with a disability, who is still living there. She has subtle nuisances like Ratner not fixing things in the building, adjusting the heat on a whim. Gag orders, and buy outs. Drilling, digging outside her window on a daily basis. And you FSRG, want to go on about trust funds, and things you have no clue about.

Grow up, the world is an imperfect place, and the benefiters of this project are rich fat cats who do not care bit one about you, or working class people. If you think this project is for you or working class people, you live in a fantasy world that would be lovely, but is not real.

The question has been asked for years. Exactly who do you think is going to live in those 19 proposed luxury high rise buildings? Definitely not you, definitely not OLD TIME WORKING CLASS UNION PEOPLE OF COLOR BROOKLYNITES. No, definitely not.

Just be careful what you condemn, and what you wish for, because you will be sadly amazed apparently, when you get it. And ain't no Tish James, or working class tenants who can NOT AFFORD to move, going to be there to help you.

You people ask "doesn't only one person live there?" NO, it is easy enough to find that out, but you pine away in your delusional fantasy scenario. Hundreds have been gag ordered and dispersed, and a few with integrity and fear and no options, remain. And others who may not be down trodden but have a sense of their human rights, fight on.

Until you are willing to give up everything you own, everything you have chosen to do in your life, you really have no right to continually spread your ignorant judgments.

Posted by: NotIgnorant at October 19, 2009 10:37 AM in response to DDDB Holds Fifth Fundraiser Against the Yards