Time Warner Center is Atlantic Terminal Mall with excessive (tacky) use of marble and mahogany. It's really more Bud Light than Veuve Cliquot, but has also been accepted for what it is. It's interesting that you brought it up, because it's almost exactly on the other end of the spectrum.

People who regularly shop at stores like L'Occitane and Williams Sonoma don't usually want to have to fight crowds in a mall to do so, but in this case, they do. On the same note, most Target stores are not IN malls, rather they anchor them as separate free-standing buildings. Things, however, in an urban context such as this (be it the Upper West Side or Downtown Brooklyn) change the circumstances. Until developers fully realize that most "city malls" aren't that amazing, we'll just keep ending up with places like these that are mediocre... Of course, they'll remain popular because they're there, and that's how it is.

Posted by: JustinCS at September 28, 2007 1:22 PM in response to Atlantic Terminal Station Starting to Show its Face

I agree with 1:01PM. How can target and Bath and Body Works, etc. be called "ghetto" when they don't actually operate establishments IN "GHETTOS."

Target operates 99% of its stores in the middle of strip malls in Suburbia, USA. THAT IS NOT GHETTO.

It's just sad how these egregious lowlifes can drop judgement when a) they don't know what "ghetto" means because they have never been to anything remotely "ghetto" b) they feel superior because they sit behind their computers in the middle of the day verbally bashing people rather than trying to respect things they're not 100% familiar or comfortable with. Just so sad.

Posted by: JustinCS at September 28, 2007 1:08 PM in response to Atlantic Terminal Station Starting to Show its Face

It's amazing what these "obviously better than all of us" self-righteous, anti-consumerist racists can come up with. It's not ghetto! It's a MALL! Have you ever left your self-aggrandizing closed-minded cocoon and gone to (GASP) THE SUBURBS!? Go to New Jersey or Long Island or Westchester (THE SUBURBS!) and check it out. Malls look that way. They choose awful decor with not-so-fantastic tiles and general lighting schemes, but they serve a purpose and cater to a demographic of people who will use them. Do you think that mall was built without some research into whether it would be used? People come from far reaches to shop at these places because New Yorkers, as "rich" and "well-off" as we are, like to shop at well-priced places sometimes too.

If you don't like this mall, don't shop at it. I think it's been established that not everyone can afford to, or wants to, shop in gourmet food stores and organic boutiques. Maybe before you call it all ghetto, you should visit it. There are many people there who could be deemed "hipsters," "yuppies," etc.

12:09PM, you're just uninformed. Fortunately, you're insulting/stereotyping thousands of people from behind the safety of your computer. While I'm sure you only shop at New York's finest boutiques and that Fifth Avenue is your playground, realize that you're just enjoying yourself speak right now and no one agrees, so stop being an a-hole and grow up.

Posted by: JustinCS at September 28, 2007 12:46 PM in response to Atlantic Terminal Station Starting to Show its Face