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July 1, 2009
Living in Boerum Hill
Thinking of moving from the slope to Boerum Hill...What is a safer block--Bergen between Bond/Nevins or Wyckoff between Smith/Hoyt?
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I say Wyckoff but how close is it to Hoyt?
Posted by: IronMaiden at June 30, 2009 6:58 PM
i say bergen - that block between nevins/bond is really pretty and you don't get any sense of the nearby PJs,,, as you would from wyckoff bet smith/hoyt.
Posted by: bowl of dicks at June 30, 2009 8:52 PM
more like BORING HILL!
Posted by: ftgreenepark at July 1, 2009 10:42 AM
Gotta say that this is one of the more tedious kinds of questions posed on this forum. No disrespect intended towards OP but the better way to handle something like this is to go out to these blocks in the evening time and see for yourself how you feel. Asking this question like this just gives everyone a chance to sound off about their own various prejudices without actually giving you much good info (again general comment and no disrespect intended to commenters above). I just find it normally ends up as a public housing bash fest.
Posted by: wasder at July 1, 2009 10:44 AM
Being that I used to live on Dean & Nevins. I think both blocks are fine, but if I had to choose I would pick Bergen.
ftgreenpk: LOL
Posted by: mrkknox at July 1, 2009 11:05 AM
and are stats ever done on block by block basis?
I mean these are 2 very close to each other. Do you think crime varies that much ?
Do you think some mugger would not walk 2 blocks over to
Clinton St in heart of Cobble HIll?
More like secure is bldg moving into?
But to address the question..... Bergen is couple of long blocks home late at night from subway station...and Wyckoff is essentially around the corner from subway (and bars if that is your lifestyle).
Posted by: Petebklyn at July 1, 2009 11:07 AM
more like BORING HILL!
Posted by: ftgreenepark at July 1, 2009 10:42 AM
Yet oddly, more expensive than Ft greene.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 1, 2009 11:11 AM
I'm with Wasder. Also, how does the poster define "safe?" Exactly how many crimes - or lack of such - would be required for the street to be deemed "safe?" Kind of a silly question.
Posted by: East New York at July 1, 2009 11:18 AM
There you go again, wasder, trying to inject a dose of reason into people's conversations! Anyway, I totally agree with the advice to walk the blocks in question in daytime and nighttime, weekdays and weekends if you have the time.
Posted by: sixyearsandcounting at July 1, 2009 11:22 AM
the only thing better about Boring Hill is that they've 4th Ave Pub and Hanks...oh and that Aussie bar and that weird coffee shop/bar place.
What's that place called again?...it's supposed to be cool but i never hang out there.
Posted by: ftgreenepark at July 1, 2009 11:32 AM
Living in Boerum Hill?
Check out the new http://www.boerumhillassociation.org
Our next pub walks are on July 15 and August 11. Even people from Bored Greene are welcome. ;)
Posted by: chuck at July 1, 2009 11:44 AM
ftgreenepark...
have you ever been to smith street? the only thing i know about ft. greene is havana outpost.
Posted by: boerumjn at July 1, 2009 12:06 PM
I think they're both fine. Having lived near there, I'd say that Wyckoff would be a little quieter and you have a much shorter walk to Smith and the Bergen Street stop. The worst thing that happened while we lived there was our car was broken into once, but really that could have happened anywhere.
Posted by: TrustNoOne at July 1, 2009 12:13 PM
Also, if one is worried about crime in Boerum Hill I think one has a fairly low tolerance for urban life.
Posted by: wasder at July 1, 2009 12:25 PM
Agree with Wasd, but will represent for the neighborhood.
Both are great blocks and very residential with a neighboorhood feel that's different from PS (and alot cooler). Would add that you perch morning and lunch in Building on Bond and at the Brooklyn Inn for an evening brew to get to know some of your neighbors. As for safety, you have to answer that for yourself.
Posted by: boerumite at July 1, 2009 12:54 PM
Sorry - meant to say Tuesday, July 14 and Tuesday, August 11 are the next two BHA Pub Walk dates.
Our first one was a huge success, so we're repeating it. Great way to meet locals and learn a lot about the 'hood (from the Revolutionary War up 'til the Mohawk steelworkers in the 1950s) and the bars (Brazen Head, Brooklyn Inn & Hanks Saloon).
Posted by: chuck at July 1, 2009 1:03 PM
Wyckoff is more convenient to trains, groceries, farmers markets, playgrounds etc., and has less traffic. Downsides are the nearly collapsed building on the corner of Hoyt which is dirty dangerous and smelly, and, if you are close to Smith, you may have some issues related to backyard restaurant garden noise in the summer.
Posted by: wyckoff at July 1, 2009 1:27 PM
Actually, Wasder, I know two young women who have been rather violently mugged in the area in the last 2-3 years--one on Wyckoff btw Hoyt/Bond, I think. But I lived at Hoyt/Wyckoff and felt very safe, so who knows.
Posted by: babygreene at July 1, 2009 4:16 PM
They're both shit. Rat-tat-tat-tat all night long.
Move to Fort Greene.
Posted by: Greenpointer at July 1, 2009 5:58 PM
"Actually, Wasder, I know two young women who have been rather violently mugged in the area in the last 2-3 years--one on Wyckoff btw Hoyt/Bond, I think. But I lived at Hoyt/Wyckoff and felt very safe, so who knows."
That's awful and I certainly am not trying to make light of anything like that. I do think that in practically any neighborhood you come up with there are going to be stories like that. Don't think Boerum Hill is particularly crime ridden that's all.
Posted by: wasder at July 1, 2009 11:28 PM
As a long-time resident of Boerum Hill, I can't say which block is safer, but there are some differences.
That block of Wyckoff is architecturally diverse. It's very near Smith Street and the F/G. The northwestern edge of Gowanus Houses starts at Hoyt & Wyckoff.
That block of Bergen Street is landmarked and fairly uniform architecturally. But a bus runs along it. A noisy bus. Every 20 minutes or so. You're further from the F/G but fairly close to nearly every other train in NYC as well as to Atlantic Avenue life.
Six of one, half dozen the other.
Posted by: Brooklyn Chicken at July 2, 2009 9:51 AM
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