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July 10, 2009
Jersey City? Hoboken
I had to laugh when someone suggested a brownstone in Hoboken could be had cheaper than one in manhatten and brooklyn.
Hoboken? That's where Frank Sinatra is from.
They still play his records there.
'nuff said.
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Why wouldn't they be cheaper? It's New Jersey, not the Capital of The World.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 10, 2009 9:10 AM
What DIBS just wrote is quite true (except that I'd use "Center of the Universe" rather than just "Capital of The World") but brownstones in Hoboken are actually very nice.
Posted by: Bob Marvin at July 10, 2009 9:32 AM
Taxes are probably 3X higher.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 10, 2009 9:41 AM
Hoboken has ugly housing stock. It was never nice. But don't understand the original poster's point. You wouldn't like Hoboken because they play Frank Sinatra records there?
They are played everywhere. I presume the original poster is highly sophisticated and thinks that Frank Sinatra isn't. Taxes ARE higher also, WAY higher. Jersey City has nice brownstones which are cheaperreal estate taxes are 4x higher though the brownstones cheaper. Neither place has the appeal of Brownstone Brooklyn -- Hoboken is a 20 something place with lots of bars and Jersey City is a patchwork with the newer buyers financial industry people commuting by Path and ferry to downtown. It's not real nice either.
Posted by: donatella at July 10, 2009 10:20 AM
Hoboken is a nice place to rent, esp. for 20-somethings.
Very close to financial district, and PATH is better than many subway lines.
Property taxes just went up a bunch and the bottom has fallen out of the real estate market. Lot of unsold condos along the Hudson and rental prices and dropping much faster than Manhattan.
Some lovely blocks along Willow, Garden, Park, and Bloomfield.
I'd avoid the "president" streets (other than Washington is a bit noisy but otherwise fine).
When I first saw Park Slope I said to a friend: Park Slope is what Hoboken wants to be when it grows up.
I'd choose Hoboken over many Brooklyn neighborhoods. It is nicer than some and closer to Manhattan than many.
Posted by: northsloperenter at July 10, 2009 11:46 AM
It's still Jersey...and a very transient community of bar hopping 25 year olds.
Posted by: argentina at July 11, 2009 8:37 PM
Every single time someone says JC or Hoboken someone (Dave!), raises the "hightaxes" flag.
I live in Jersey City and pay 2,300/yr. in PP Tax for a single family brick rowhouse. It's also worth mentioning that we got reassessed in 2009 so it's not likely that it'll change any time soon. Some pay more, some pay much more, but not all. You have to go by the house and block and not make such blanket statements.
"It's still Jersey...and a very transient community of bar hopping 25 year olds."
Clearly you haven't really spent any time here. Hence your sweeping petty and frankly naive statement. I'd say if you haven't been to or spent time in either JC or Hoboken in the last 5 years I'd say pay it a visit before commenting on how nice or not nice it is.
Just like Brooklyn areas are hit and miss but for the most part YES, there are some great homes and our commute to NYC is WAY better than when we lived in Brooklyn.
No, it doesn't have the cache of living in downtown Brooklyn but then again, it sure as heck doesn't have the price tag either. I didn't want to live in a fringe nabe just so I could afford a single family.
I guess for some it's more important to say "I live in Brooklyn" than to own a wonderful home in a wonderful neighborhood. They would be ashamed to tell others that they moved to Jersey. How uncool would that be? What will their friends and co-workers think?
Now, don't get me wrong. I love Brooklyn. I spent many years there. As a renter. SO I in no way am casting stones at Brooklyn. I'm simply pointing out that it is not the only place on earth in which to find a nice home.
To each his own. I'm more than happy in my own.
Posted by: TownhouseLady at July 12, 2009 2:46 AM
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