Forum
« FIRE ALARM SYSTEM - ADVICE Interior stair repair »
July 14, 2009
Bathroom renovation
We want to renovate our existing bathroom.
Basically new everything. Tiles on the floor, new toilet, bath (with shower) and sink etc.
Im being told it would take two weeks and the family should move out for the duration. We don’t mind going to relatives for job, but two weeks?
How long should this take if they’re on the job everyday, or is this two weeks fluff time?
Comments
Two weeks if everything goes absolutely on plan....the fixtures are all there ahead of time, the crew shows up every day, there are no "issues" like structural problems encountered after the demolition, the tile guy gets there exactly the day he is supposed to, etc, etc, etc. It is certainly doable. Depends upon how confident you are in your contractor pulling all of this off.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 14, 2009 5:43 PM
Architect here. Daveinbedstuy is right. In my experience, 2 weeks is the absolute minimum a renovated bathroom with this type of work will take. There are numerous trades involved, and not a large space to accommodate them all at once, so contractors will usually schedule one trade a day (demolition, plumbing, tile, electrical, painter, then back to plumbing, etc). This extends the construction time, but usually this is not avoidable.
Like Dave said, be sure to have everything (tile, fixtures, etc) ordered and delivered before construction begins, otherwise you'll surely run into issues.
If you're ripping out the existing tile floor, I hope you're planning on putting down a new waterproof membrane.
Be prepared for 3+ weeks in case there are any issues that emerge along the way.
Good luck.
60designers@gmail.com
Posted by: 60designers at July 14, 2009 6:13 PM
Well with out seeing the job 2 weeks sounds reasonable. I just finished a bathroom that took 5 months, now they did have two more, it was a living room and it cost $65,000. Now it does not mean your tub and toilet has to be down the whold time. But the real commentary here is do you trust you contractor. If i were to say the bathroom is down for two weeks, then that is that! There wouldn't be any "Fluff" crap. I agree with dave, expect it to take longer
Posted by: Old City Construction at July 14, 2009 6:17 PM
It sounds like Dave and his 60 designer's are stuck in the 60's. How can anyone make a judgement on time without knowing the size and the type of materials you are looking for? A typical 5x7 bath with all the bells and whistles can be done in a week or less provided that the materials are not on back order and you have a large construction outfit doing the work. I used Bullfrog Builders and I always recommend them on this site. WWW.BULLFROGNY.COM, 718-228-0199. Call them and get a free estimate that includes an est. start and finish date as well as accurate pricing.
Posted by: Phil at July 14, 2009 6:35 PM
I recommend Froggie Contractors. They can do it all in ONE DAY. They're from the fifties, that;s why they can do it.
Seriously, you could make sure you have a toilet at least for much of the time. Shower is tougher. What do you think all these new hotels are for?
Posted by: denton at July 14, 2009 6:43 PM
Phil,
I noted the typical duration for this work. Is it possible to do it in 2 weeks? Of course. But it's atypical given the number of trades involved.
Do you think your esteemed Bullfrog Builders would be willing to sign a penalty clause in the contract indicating that no matter what happens, the job will be completed to the client's satisfaction in exactly 2 weeks, including punchlist...and if not, the owner gets credited, say, $1,000 for each day exceeding that 2 weeks?
Posted by: 60designers at July 14, 2009 6:57 PM
contact mr luis 3478674695
Posted by: yurigmushainti71 at July 14, 2009 11:04 PM
contact mr luis 3478674695
Posted by: yurigmushainti71 at July 14, 2009 11:05 PM
My 9 X 14 bath took about 6 weeks. My smaller 5 X 7 with a shower stall and prefab base took 4 days to fram, rough in (supply lines and soil pipe were already there) and rock. I finished it off in another 4 days. A tub or prefab shower base installation will reduce the needed time for the job than would a custom shower base.
Make sure your contractor os OK with you supplying the fixtures. Some are not as they like to earn the mark-up. Also, if something goes wrong, you are responsible for the fixtures; like a delay because the wrong tank was shipped with the toilet base.
And, as 60designers has said, a penalty clause would be nice but try and collect it.
Schedule payments to the contractor so that you are comfortable that they won't walk off without finishing.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at July 15, 2009 8:47 AM
The point of my rebuttle to both 60's and Dave was to let Jasetheace know that yes it is possible to do a bathroom in much less than 2-3 weeks depending on the type of general contractor hired, the size of the bath and the cooperation of the buyer. It seems like 60's and Dave are referring to a timeline based on a handyman or small one/two man show. On the flipside, a large company like Bullfrog would be able to tackle all of the different trades associated with a bath reno, from the initial demo to the removal of all debris at the end. As for a penalty clause, good luck with that!
Posted by: Phil at July 15, 2009 12:06 PM
Phil,
You wrote, "A typical 5x7 bath with all the bells and whistles can be done in a week or less provided that the materials are not on back order and you have a large construction outfit doing the work."
A week or less? Sorry, but if Bullfrog can do a 5x7 in less than a week, then they're magicians. It doesn't matter how large the construction outfit is...you can't fit more then 2 construction workers at a time in a bathroom this size. And, some trades need time to dry before other work can continue, which will easily get you beyond the 1 week you claimed possible. Unless your Bullfroggers can scientifically change material properties and modify the way materials respond to air, I'd say your proclamation is impossible...Certainly not in the real world of contractor, subcontractor, scheduling, coordination, unforseen circumstances, etc.
The penalty clause was sarcasm.
Posted by: 60designers at July 16, 2009 9:56 AM
It depends on the actual full scope and the contractor. Very few offer project management - meaning some sort of realistic daily schedule. Bath renos usually have surprises (water damage) and because of the number of trades involved usually can't be pulled off quickly.
Look for a good communicator with a track record and mentally prepare yourself for the inconveniences.
Posted by: masterbuilder at July 16, 2009 11:08 AM
Post a comment
Please be patient while your comment is published. It may take a moment.