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June 13, 2009
RE: Open tread stairs and cable
This is in RE to my earlier post:
http://www.brownstoner.com/forum/archives/2009/06/open_tread_stai.php
Regarding the 4" rule...The 4" rule does not apply to cables (as I have understood), but rather it applied to the gap between the risers on the stairs. Basically the gap between the stairs according to the new NY law can not be bigger then 4". I honestly dont see how a child can get through a 4" space.
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No, I believe the 4" rule is any gap in the risers or railings.
Why do you think this has anything to do with real-life kids or situations? It's code and ye shall obey it. Probably a microcephalic child was strangled somewhere and his parents sued the city.
Posted by: cmu at June 13, 2009 9:52 PM
Yes, thats what Im saying...I mean it may or may not apply to cables...but you have to have them 3-4" appart to be safe.
Posted by: nybk01 at June 13, 2009 10:02 PM
dont you think that this stuff is really corny looking?
Posted by: eman1234 at June 13, 2009 10:55 PM
How do you build an open staircase with less than a 4" gap between risers, unless you are using stair treads that are 3" thick (presuming a 7" step). ???
Denton?
(PS: I think you won an O'Douls. I'm preggers).
Posted by: saturdayrenogirl at June 13, 2009 11:30 PM
saturday, I hear ya. My gap is 7" btw risers.
Maybe these staircases frazzle the inspectors so much, being new, that they just sign off. Altho that didn't work for my new boiler.
eman, we don't think it's corny looking. What I think is corny looking is cheap pine risers with cheap mass-produced turned vertical balustrades. But to each his own. Nevertheless if you consult such books as 'Creating the New American Townhouse' and 'Brooklyn Modern' similar open stairs are more the rule than the exception.
Posted by: denton at June 14, 2009 8:06 AM
This is just a pic I found...we will be doing thicker risers and wood railings with the cables below. The pic here looks a little cheap.
Posted by: nybk01 at June 14, 2009 11:31 AM
4-inch thick treads would be pretty sweet....
Posted by: tybur6 at June 14, 2009 2:28 PM
denton...this look can be gorgeous if detailed properly...look at the stairs of luis barragan http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3569&stc=1&d=1126971169
or the matal railings in the yale art museum stairs by louis kahn....http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/369389643_0acdb1efe4.jpg
but this aluminum storefront version is really cheesy looking in my view..
Posted by: eman1234 at June 14, 2009 8:53 PM

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