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June 4, 2009

Park Slope Prices / Sq. Ft.?

Hello all,

I recently saw a posting on Corcoran for a co-op on Montgomery Street in Park Slope that was 500 square feet and the asking price was $399,000.

Is the real estate market really going at $800 / sq. ft. in Park Slope or is this place way overpriced?

Cheers.

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Montgomery street is on the other side of the park from Montgomery Place. If you're talking about Montgomery Place, it is a particularly nice bock... Light traffic, beautiful architecture, close to 2/3/Q, supermarket etc...

Posted by: SJ at June 4, 2009 2:34 PM

Way overpriced. 800 is close to peak pricing. Expect 500/sf soonish - we are no where close to a bottom.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at June 4, 2009 2:34 PM

700/800 sf is indeed typical pricing for Park Slope right now. A street like Montgomery Place...absolutely...it's one of the nicest blocks in the neighborhood.

Peak pricing was much closer to 900/1000 psf.

MM only wishes for 500 psf. She has nothing to back up her prediction.

Posted by: 11217 at June 4, 2009 2:46 PM

And I'd take Ben Bernake's advice over Miss Muffet any day of the week, no matter what you think of the guy:

MAY 2009
U.S. housing near bottom, recovery ahead: Bernanke

Economy to turn up this year if financial sector heals.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress Tuesday the three-year U.S. housing bust may be near a bottom and that he expected the recession to end this year barring a relapse of the financial crisis.

Bernanke sounded more confident than he had in recent weeks that the pieces were in place for an economic recovery, although he acknowledged that growth would remain subdued and unemployment high after the recovery begins.

He also said "stress tests" to assess the capital needs of the 19 largest U.S. banks will provide an accurate reflection of the firms' financial positions, and he expected those which need a bigger buffer to raise the money from private sources.

"We continue to expect economic activity to bottom out, then to turn up later this year," Bernanke told the congressional Joint Economic Committee.

However, he added that even after the recovery begins, "the rate of growth of real economic activity is likely to remain below its longer-run potential for a while."

That will leave slack in the economy, keeping inflation low, which in turn suggests that the central bank will keep interest rates low for some time.

The Fed — the U.S. central bank — dropped benchmark overnight interest rates to near zero in December. After a two-day meeting last week, it repeated that it would likely hold borrowing costs at an unusually low level for "an extended period."

Stephen Stanley, an economist at RBS Securities in Greenwich, Connecticut, said Bernanke's comments were "undoubtedly significantly more upbeat than his last congressional appearance in February."

Despite the more upbeat economic view, U.S. stock markets slipped, giving back some of the gains racked up Monday, while prices for government debt rose modestly.

U.S. regulators were expected to brief banks Tuesday on the findings of the stress tests, which aimed to determine whether the firms have enough capital to withstand a deeper downturn. Regulators will announce results Thursday.

Bernanke said estimates that banks may need hundreds of billions of dollars in additional capital overstated the "call" on government resources, pointing out that the Obama administration has said it does not expect to seek more bailout money from Congress.

"I've looked at many of the banks and I believe that many of them will be able to meet their capital needs without further government capital through either issuance of new capital, or through conversions and exchanges, or through sale of assets and other measures that would raise capital," he said.

He also said the Fed would soon release more details on the various lending programs it has launched to try to ease the credit crisis, including information on the number of borrowers and the collateral accepted.

While he stopped short of agreeing to name borrowers, as some lawmakers have requested, he acknowledged that the Fed had a responsibility to keep Congress and the public informed about its lending programs and balance sheet.

That has become a contentious issue as the central bank has extended massive amounts of loans to banks as well as other firms that have not traditionally turned to the Fed in its role of lender of last resort.

"I want to commend you for establishing greater transparency at the Fed," Representative Carolyn Maloney, chairman of the Joint Economic Committee, said in a statement.

"To be sure, there are fewer 'secrets of the temple' today, but I know you will appreciate that we must continue to work to strike a better balance between institutional interests and the public's right to know how their money is being spent," the New York Democrat said.

Posted by: 11217 at June 4, 2009 2:50 PM

Studios and 1 br tend to be priced a bit higher on a square foot basis as opposed to a large 2BR or entire building...

Posted by: newsouthsloper at June 4, 2009 3:34 PM

also have to take into account location within 'hood (and Montgomery is tops), condition/appointments of apt, and underlying mortgage if a coop. So there will be significant range within a neighborhood for price per sq ft.

Posted by: Petebklyn at June 4, 2009 4:47 PM

It is seldom that I disagree with Miss Muffett, but I actually don't think this is very overpriced for Montgomery Place, which is one of the very best streets in the Slope. I might even go so far as to say it's the most desirable street address in Park Slope (if you don't mind being Chuck Schumer's neighbor). Maybe this should be at $700 psf or something, but this isn't a land grab.

Subject to the actual details about the apartment, obviously.

For more pedestrian areas of the slope, this would be a very high price.

Posted by: lechacal at June 4, 2009 7:04 PM

11217 - I have Case Schiller to back up my predictions, as well as recent price chops in prime PS. That said, Montgomery does deserve a special premium (I read this quickly at work) so could be at top end of price scale. Still, I think the current price is too high, even if it does not drop to 500psf.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at June 4, 2009 10:39 PM

And we have to listento Ben Bernanke because? I don't think he had any idea this was coming. He has to raise interst rates and can't because we have to help moroons who overpayed for their overpriced taxed assets. Please ask him if he thinks home loan rates are going to stay at 4.5 percent for the next 40 years. I don't think so we iether get double didget inflation for many years or that home price has to come down by at least 50 percent!

Posted by: hannible at June 5, 2009 12:19 AM

Hannible - You can bet on double digit inflation to go along with a doubling of home prices in the next 5-7 years. Our dollars are worth less every day, especially with the Government printing money and treasuries at maximum speed and Obama looking to spend every last dime of our accumulated wealth and future generations as well.

Staying liquid will not help, assets will rise as money becomes less valuable. Owning a home will offer some protection, cash will not.

Posted by: newsouthsloper at June 5, 2009 8:23 AM

look at the per-sq-feet prices on streeteasy.com
They still go up for Park Slope.

Posted by: bobjohn at June 5, 2009 9:43 AM

First of all, the official realtor reports, even for Park Slope, show per square foot prices heading definitely DOWN. Also, if interest rates rise, that puts DOWNWARD pressure on homes. So I'm not sure what newsouthsloper is talking about. All signs point to continuing declines though I concede that no one knows when or where the bottom will be - just that it's not yet here.

Posted by: Miss Muffett at June 5, 2009 12:46 PM

I sold my brownstone for around that price/sqft in Carol Gardens in mid-2004. So $800/sqft for a nice street in the Slope is *not* a peak price.

Posted by: vanyali at June 8, 2009 1:35 PM

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