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May 19, 2009
Cost For a New Deck
Just out of curiosity: about how much would a simple, permit compliant, metal deck off the parlor floor cost (architect/labor/materials)? We have an existing (but very old) wood deck right now.
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you really need to post more information, i.e., dimension, what kind of wood? railing, stairs?
check out the archives for deck builders on this site for more info. there are a lot of referrals.
Posted by: lilacgirl at May 18, 2009 12:57 PM
For a 20' wide house, you can go 8' deep with a deck. Call Susan at Sketch and Hammer. It'll be around $17k from her...virtually all steel with poured footings, code compliant with bells and whistles like planter boxes, nicely stained wood decking. The wood decking has to be 3' from the property line on bothe sides so its a metal grid deck there. She has a lot of pics on her website.
I know you can get it done cheaper though.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 18, 2009 1:04 PM
Try Steve@urbanexteriors.biz
Posted by: Arkady at May 18, 2009 1:39 PM
Dave's price is a good estimate. I found materials for an a powder-coated, aluminum deck with grating to allow light through, similar dimensions, for around 10-11K. Iron would be similar. Labor to instal including footings, figure another 5K. Architect, expediter, another 5-8K. Budget 25-30K.
Posted by: renomandru at May 18, 2009 5:13 PM
I just rebuilt my deck.
it cost $28,000.
I used really nice wood (ipe).
It ain't cheap
Posted by: sam at May 19, 2009 9:50 AM
Wow. That's twice what I thought it would or should cost. You can install a kitchen for $25-30K. Sorry, but that's ridiculous. That's money-to-burn pricing. Who designs and makes legal metal decks for regular folk?
Posted by: traditionalmod at May 19, 2009 9:53 AM
traditional--there are definitely cheaper ways to construct a deck than what folks are talking about above. What unfortunately is costly and unavoidable is all of the expediting/filing/design costs which can tack on an extra 8 to 10 thousand to your materials costs.
Posted by: wasder at May 19, 2009 10:01 AM
I just don't think the design fee should be 30-50% of the cost to install a basic metal deck. Especially when the design is going to mostly be the same house to house per city regulations.
Posted by: traditionalmod at May 19, 2009 10:12 AM
what's a metal deck? what are you talking about exactly?
Most residential decks on brownstones are wooden.
Posted by: sam at May 19, 2009 10:15 AM
Most decks in our neighborhood that have been there a long time are aluminum or iron, or brick and iron. It's safer for fires and metal is required for code if the deck is a certain distance from the neighboring house. I actually do prefer an aluminum or iron deck, I don't want wood. But we don't use our deck for dining or grilling, we have a large yard for that.
Posted by: traditionalmod at May 19, 2009 10:22 AM
no one uses iron any more. do you mean steel?
You really want a small balcony not a deck where you can dine and sunbathe.
On my block everyone has wooden decks. Old houses are not built of fireproof construction and are classified as "non-fireproof" at the buildings department. Wanting a deck to be fire proof on a brownstone is a little odd. If the house burns down do you wish the deck to survive?
Posted by: sam at May 19, 2009 10:35 AM
No, Sam, it's to avoid fire spreading to your home as easily if the house next door burns. That's what the code is about. But that's not why I personally want a metal stairs/deck. I just don't want the maintenance of wood. And like I said we use our patio and yard for dining. Anyway, not worth all the discussion really! I'm just shocked at the cost of these things.
Posted by: traditionalmod at May 19, 2009 10:43 AM
I believe you can still build a wood deck that is three feet from either side property line. This greatly limits the size of the deck so most are now built full width out of steel, as per code. You can use wood decking in the middle for flooring but it has to be steel on the ends 3' from each side property. Any additional side "fence-like" structures need to be steel but can have a REMOVBLE wood lattice or other style screening.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at May 19, 2009 11:01 AM
We received quotes at about $8000 for a 12 X 12 steel deck over an extension with a spiral stair down.....just for the materials. The filing fees should add a few thousand more
Posted by: PHfamily at May 19, 2009 11:43 AM
sam, it's probably because of the ipe, which is much more expensive and a bear to install. You can have a metal superstructure with wooden floorboards if they're 3' from the property line. Our 10x10 deck with spiral was abt 15k (Sketch & Hammer)
Posted by: cmu at May 19, 2009 1:07 PM
cmu, I know, the ipe is very expensive. but you get what you pay for and it is a beautiful material.
Posted by: sam at May 19, 2009 2:17 PM
Do the ones that supposedly let light through really let light through, or do they massively reduce it? I'm on the parlor floor but I have a downstairs neighbor, and the garden is his, but I have thought about trying, maybe, to get the board to ok a wide, shallow Juliet balcony.
And does the increase in property value justify doing this? Thoughts?
Posted by: babygreene at May 19, 2009 2:50 PM
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