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January 6, 2009
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I need a gas stove installed. The kitchen gas pipe does not have a shut off valve.
The building pays for the gas.
The meter is in the basement.
Is it required to disconnect the whole apartment line from the basemeny?
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No. You shut off the gas in the basement to all the units (which you need to advise them of) and install a valve at the end in your apartment....just before you connect the stove hose. Any handyman could do it. it should take about 20 minutes at most with the majority of that time going between your unit and the basement and back.
Posted by: daveinbedstuy at January 6, 2009 2:25 PM
daveinbedstuy
I live on the top floor in a highrise building. Wouldn't a lisenced plumber have to do the job.?
How do all the gas stoves in the apartment line get put back on?
Anyone else care to give an opinion?
Thanks
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 6, 2009 3:39 PM
Your building super will also know the answer to this.
Posted by: mopar at January 6, 2009 3:53 PM
mopar
He looked at and told me nothing. There was no discussion on his part which is why I posted the situation.
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 6, 2009 5:13 PM
Do you own this apt and is it a coop or condo? Isn't the building super required to supervise this kind of work? Or even do it himself? Is he expecting a tip?
Posted by: mopar at January 6, 2009 5:45 PM
mopar
Yes the hi rise is a condo and the unit is mine. This is not about tipping the super. A few years ago the super made an error in judgenent when he removed a wall oven. He disconnected the pipe in the wrong place thus breaking off the shut off valve to repair a water leak in the ceiling above the wall oven. Meanwhile private licensed plumbers have been coming and going trying to asses the problem. They all agreed one thing...the shut off valve was beoken. The super threw out the oven and I never replaced it.
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 6, 2009 6:24 PM
what DIBS said. The stoves in the line 'come back on' when the gas line is pressurized.
Posted by: denton at January 6, 2009 6:54 PM
denton
What about the pilot lights to all the stoves in the line?
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 6, 2009 7:15 PM
Pilot lights? I thought hose were gone decades ago. They're illegal! Big gas guzzlers.
Posted by: denton at January 6, 2009 7:21 PM
denton
Pilot lights are still installed when making gas stoves. Some are electronic others are not.
Pilot lights are a nuisance but perfectly legal.
Any more suggestions from the peanut gallery?
I would be happy to read them.
Thanks.
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 6, 2009 7:46 PM
I'd think you of all people, Y, would want to do this "legally..." yes, a licensed plumber is needed any time gas is involved.
I, on the other hand, would use a handyman.
Posted by: cmu at January 6, 2009 8:50 PM
cmu
i intend to use a licensed plumber. The problem is they all have different opinions on how to do the work.
Con Edison gas department is a whole other story. I spoke to them first and learned they want to make a mountain out of a molehill. Con Edison is the modern version of car 54, where are you?
Man, they are the the worst!
There idea of a good time is shutting down the whole gas system in the building. They were never in the building or my apartment!
Another party favor they are offerring is telling me i should get an attorney and sue the condo board.
I am sure I will be a big hit with the board after following con eds advice.
The board members are strangers to me,
Why antagonize them?
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 6, 2009 11:03 PM
There is no such thing as an "electronic pilot light" - it is an electronic ignition and there is nothing to "light" when connected to gas. When the gas gets turned on by the knob in the front, the stove generates an electronic spark and the burner lights.
As for the older "standing pilot lights" they can be lit with a match once the gas is turned back on.
If all you need is to have a cut off installed and a new stove connected - just call a plumber and have it done. Nothing complicated here. As long as everyone that is affected by the shut off gas are informed - all should be ok.
A "little" gas leaking from a standing pilot for a "SHORT" time is not a crisis.
Posted by: SenatorStreet at January 7, 2009 9:12 AM
senatorStreet
Sorry for the faux pas about the electronic pilot light.
Con Edison tried to bully their way into the apartment this morning.. I said NO loud and clear.
I never requested their presence.
The workers that appeared out of the blue were troublemakers. I hate bullies
There is no gas leak.
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 7, 2009 3:00 PM
Wow, that is a nightmare about the super. Yeah, I can only advise you use a licensed plumber. SenatorStreet seems to know much more about gas lines than I do. Also, in some neighborhoods I have lived in, there are appliance stores and they install the stove for you when you buy it. Also, it seems the condo board might owe you a new oven....but like you say, no use getting into a lawsuit about nothing.
Posted by: mopar at January 7, 2009 5:30 PM
It ain't over til it's over!
Thanks to everyone for trying to help.
Posted by: Ysabelle at January 7, 2009 11:11 PM
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