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November 19, 2008

U.S. Housing Starts, Permits Drop to Record Low Pace

U.S. Housing Starts, Permits Drop to Record Low Pace

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayFpFXHa5bvU&refer=home


Builders mired in a three-year housing slump are finding it hard to attract buyers as property values drop and banks tighten lending standards. Declines in construction spending remain a drag on economic growth, increasing chances of a prolonged recession.

``The problems in housing were exacerbated by the credit problems we had in September and October,'' said Russell Price, a senior economist at Ameriprise Financial Inc. in Detroit, who forecast housing starts would drop to a 790,000 annual pace. ``Housing will be slow to rebound from that period.''

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ROTW uses the same language as the unscrupulous "block-buster" real-estate agents who operated so effectively in NYC during the "white flight" days of the 60's. They peddled fear, and bought homes on the cheap from those who fled. He fails to understand that this is a different era. He may be trying to do the same thing, as there are runmours that he is a real estate agent. Pay no attention to him.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at November 19, 2008 10:22 AM

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 10:26 AM

Father wears his Sunday best
Mother's tired she needs a rest
The kids are playing up downstairs
Sister's sighing in her sleep
Brother's got a date to keep
He cannot hang around

Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our ...

Our house it has a crowd
There's always something happening
And it's usually quite loud
Our mum she's so house-proud
Nothing ever slows her down
And a mess is not allowed

Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our ...

Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our ...
Something tells you that you've got to get away from it

Father gets up late for work
Mother has to iron his shirt
Then she sends the kids to school
Sees them off with a small kiss
She's the one they're going to miss
In lots of ways

Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our ...

I remember way back then when everything was true and when
We would have such a very good time such a fine time
Such a happy time
And I remember how we'd play simply waste the day away
Then we'd say nothing would come between us two dreamers

Father wears his Sunday best
Mother's tired she needs a rest
The kids are playing up downstairs
Sister's sighing in her sleep
Brother's got a date to keep
He can't hang around

Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our street

Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our ...

Our house, was our castle and our keep
Our house, in the middle of our street

Our house, that was where we used to sleep
Our house, in the middle of our street

Our house, in the middle of our street

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 19, 2008 10:50 AM

I'll light the fire, while you place the flowers
In the vase that you bought today.
Staring at the fire for hours and hours,
While I listen to you play your love songs
All night long for me, only for me.

Our house, is a very, very, very fine house.
With two cats in the yard,
Life used to be so hard,
Now everything is easy 'cause of you.

Come to me now, and rest your head for just five minutes,
Everything is done.
Such a cozy room, the windows are illuminated
By the evening sunshine through them,
Fiery gems for you, only for you.

Our house, is a very, very, very fine house.
With two cats in the yard,
Life used to be so hard,
Now everything is easy 'cause of you.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 10:53 AM

She's a brick----house
Mighty might just lettin' it all hang out
She's a brick----house
The lady's stacked and that's a fact,
ain't holding nothing back.
She's a brick----house
She's the one, the only one,
who's built like a amazon [pronounced am-a-ka-zawn]
We're together everybody knows,
and here's how the story goes.
1. She knows she got everything
a woman needs to get a man, yeah.
How can she use, the things she use
36-24-36, what a winning hand!
Chorus
2. The clothes she wears, the sexy ways,
make an old man wish for younger days
She knows she's built and knows how to please
Sure enough to knock a man to his knees
Chorus
Bridge
Shake it down, shake it down now (repeat)

Sorry...couldn't resist!

Posted by: cobblehiller at November 19, 2008 11:11 AM

There is a house down in new orleans
They call the risin sun
And its been the ruin of many a poor girl
And me, oh god, Im a-one

My mother was a tailor
She sewed these new blue jeans
My sweetheart was a gambler, lord
Down in new orleans

Now the only thing a gambler needs
Is a suitcase and a trunk
And the only time hes satisfied
Is when hes on a drunk

He fills his glasses up to the brim
And hell pass the cards around
And the only pleasure he gets out of life
Is ramblin from town to town

Oh tell my baby sister
Not to do what I have done
But shun that house in new orleans
They call the risin sun

Well, its one foot on the platform
And the other foot on the train
Im goin back to new orleans
To wear that ball and chain

Im a-goin back to new orleans
My race is almost run
Im goin back to end my life
Down in the risin sun

There is a house in new orleans
They call the risin sun
Its been the ruin of many poor girl
And me, oh god, Im a-one

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 11:22 AM

I would like to say one thing. What do you think I'm gonna do when all hell breaks lose? My vengeance goes real hard Boys and Girls. So keep rattling the Tiger cage, have all the fun you want.

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...

Posted by: Return of The What at November 19, 2008 11:38 AM

Risin up
back on the street
did my time took my chances
went the distance now I'm back on my feet
just a man and his will to survive
so many times
it happens too fast
you trade your passion for glory
don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past
you must fight just to keep them alive

It's the eye of the tiger
its the cream of the fight
risin up to the challenge of our rivals
and the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
and he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

Face to face
out in the heat
hanging tough
stayin hungry
the stack the odds still we take to the street
for the kill with the skill to survive...

It's the eye of the tiger
its the cream of the fight
risin up to the challenge of our rivals
and the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
and he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

Risin up
straight to the top
had the guts got the glory
went the distance now I'm not gonna stop
just a man and his will to survive

It's the eye of the tiger
its the cream of the fight
risin up to the challenge of our rivals
and the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
and he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

The eye of the tiger......
The eye of the tiger......
The eye of the tiger......

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 19, 2008 11:42 AM

I HATE missing all the fun!

The insect-headed worker-wife
will hang her waspies on the line;
the husband burns his paper,
sucks his pipe while studying their cushion-floor;
his viscous poly-paste breath comes out,
their wall-paper world is shattered by his shout,
a boy in blue is busy banging out a headache on the kitchen door. all the while graham slept on,
dreaming of a world where he could do just what he wanted to
no thugs in our house,
are there dear?
we made that clear
we made little graham promise us he'd be a good boy.
no thugs in our house ,
are there dear?
we made that clear
we made little graham promise us he'd be a good boy.
the young policeman who just can't grow a moustache will open
up his book,
and spoil their breakfast with reports of asians who have been so badly kicked, is this your son's wallet I've got here?
he must have dropped it after too much beer!
oh, officer,
we can't believe our little angel is the one you've picked.
and all the while graham slept on,
dreaming of a world where he could do just what he wanted to.
no thugs in our house,
are there dear?
we made that clear
we made little graham promise us he'd be a good boy.
no thugs in our house,
are there dear?
we made that clear we made little
graham promise us he'd be a good boy.
they never read those pamphlets in his bottom drawer,
they never read that tattoo on his arm.
they thought that was just a boys club badge he wore,
they never thought he'd do folks any harm.
the insect-headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line;
she's singing something
stale and simple now this business has fizzled out;
her little tune is such a happy song
her son is innocent,
he can't do wrong,
'cos dads a judge and knows exactly what the job of judging's all about.
and all the while graham slept on,
dreaming of a world where he could do just what he wanted to.
no thugs in our house,
are there dear?
we made that clear
we made little graham promise us he'd be a good boy.
no thugs in our house,
are there dear?
we made that clear
we made little graham promise us he'd be a good boy.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 12:20 PM

Keep Rattling The Tiger Cage Party

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 1:21 PM

Where's SnarkSlope? I thought this line would bring him out:

"the young policeman who just can't grow a moustache will open up his book"

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 1:28 PM

Rattle the Cage 09!

Keep Fucking Around 09!

Happy Holidays 09!

Top three next Brownstoner party names.

Posted by: wasder at November 19, 2008 1:37 PM

And I was a bit dismayed when they took that shoes and clothes for sale post with the hot Chinese Hip Hop guy off of the Forum posts this morning :(

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 1:44 PM

'Get the F**k out of my house'
Delirious - Eddie Murphy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPl7EER9jLo

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 1:44 PM

There's a black man with a black cat livin' in a black neighborhood
He's got an interstate runnin' through his front yard
You know he thinks that he's got it so good
And there's a woman in the kitchen cleanin' up the evenin' slop
And he looks at her and says, "Hey darlin', I can remember when
you could stop a clock."

CHORUS:
Oh but ain't that America for you and me
Ain't that America somethin' to see baby
Ain't that America home of the free
Little pink houses for you and me

There's a young man in a t-shirt
Listenin' to a rockin' rollin' station
He's got greasy hair, greasy smile
He says, "Lord this must be my destination."
'Cause they told me when I was younger
"Boy you're gonna be president."
But just like everything else those old crazy dreams
Just kinda came and went

CHORUS

Well there's people and more people
What do they know know know
Go to work in some high rise
And vacation down at the Gulf of Mexico
Ooh yeah
And there's winners and there's losers
But they ain't no big deal
'Cause the simple man baby pays for the thrills, the bills,
the pills that kill

CHORUS

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 1:49 PM

DIBS,

www.asianhunks.blogspot.com

Enjoy!!

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 1:50 PM

"There is a house down in new orleans"

BRG, how did DIBS get this one and we didn't!?

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 1:51 PM

Biff, everything to the south is now my resposiblity?

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 1:53 PM

"the young policeman who just can't grow a moustache will open up his book"

Nah. My taste runs more towards "the hot Chinese Hip Hop guy."

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 19, 2008 1:53 PM

"DIBS,

www.asianhunks.blogspot.com"

Great, now we've lost DIBS for the afternoon, if not the rest of the week. BRG, I finally responded to the re-write thing.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 1:54 PM

Thanks BRG but that's already bookmarked among my favs!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 1:55 PM

I guess you and I won't be going out together then SnarkSlope. Too much battling over the same ones. However, most of my pickups are on-line anyway.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 1:57 PM

"Biff, everything to the south is now my resposiblity?"
I thought you said you enjoy going down south!

"Nah. My taste runs more towards "the hot Chinese Hip Hop guy.""
And for those of you who tend to like East Asian men, there's always www.brownboner.com

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 1:59 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've got $100 that says DIBS and Snark just tried to check out that website.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 1:59 PM

No onein their right mind will take that bet Biff

I can't post the other sites I use because they are far more risque.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:02 PM

"I've got $100 that says DIBS and Snark just tried to check out that website."

Not now at work. But later, oh yes.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 19, 2008 2:06 PM

I did...no filters here at our own little firm. We have to have complete access to all sorts of information coming from all over the world on a minute-by-minute basis otherwise we can't make snap investment decisions.

Don't waste your time with it Snark. It's just Biff playing another one of his childish Asshat games.

Someday this porn's gonna overwhelm you....

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:10 PM

I figured Biff was up to his shenanigans. And yes, DIBS, you are correct, we share many of the same tastes. But the spoils of battle are yours for the taking, as the BF keeps me off the field.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 19, 2008 2:15 PM

Are you a RQ Snark?? That'll keep the others guessing!!!

I'm both RQ and BQ. Surprise, surprise. :)

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:19 PM

'I thought you said you enjoy going down south!'

I've been down south many times. I need to go down with the right person, otherwise it ruins the entire experience.

Have you been down south in the extreme heat, Biff? There's nothing like, clothes clinging to your body from the stickness in the air.
We have friends in New Orleans and he promised me that if I come down during Mardi Gras, he could get me to ride on a float.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 2:21 PM

I see Southwest is coming to LaGuardia. Does that mean we'll all be going down south a lot more often? When I was in Mexico, that was pretty far south. Nothing like two weeks full of being down south.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:25 PM

South of the border, down Mexico way,
That's where I fell in love
When the stars above came out to play.
And now as I wander, my thoughts ever stray
South of the border, down Mexico way.

She was a picture in old Spanish lace.
Just for a tender while
I kissed the smile a-pon her face.
'Cause it was fiesta, and we were so gay
South of the border, Mexico way.

Then she sighed as she whispered "manana"
Never dreaming that we were parting.
And I lied as I whispered "manana"
'Cause our tomorrow never came.

South of the border, I jumped back one day
There in a veil of white by the candlelight
She knelt down to pray.
The mission bells told me that I shouldn't stay
South of the border, Mexico way.

The mission bells told me - ding dong - that I must not stay,
Stay south of the border, down Mexico way.
Ai-ai-ai-ai (ai-ai-ai-ai)
Ai-ai-ai-ai (ai-ai-ai-ai)
Ai-ai-ai-ai

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:27 PM

"I'm both RQ and BQ. Surprise, surprise. :)"
and I bet you would love to leave your firm's HQ and go get a Cheesequake Blizzard at DQ with a hot model with a high IQ from GQ! And after he shows you a good time, you can say, "10Q!"

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 2:28 PM

The high IQ isn't necessary. Besides, mouth breathers are sexier.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:31 PM

Ahhhh, Patsy. Makes me wanna do karaoke.

RQ. BQ. PQ.

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 19, 2008 2:31 PM

PQ???

DQ too.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:33 PM

"Have you been down south in the extreme heat, Biff?"
Not yet today, but it's still early.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 2:33 PM

Snark...lets go to Japas 38 on 38th bet Madison & Park...great Karaoke. Had my birthday there.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:34 PM

Anyone else into R2D2?

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 2:35 PM

We all know what R2D2 looks like. Put a few AA batteries in the bottom and there you have it.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:36 PM

Is the BF R Snark?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:40 PM

Damn it, you two...I have to now go get a gay to english dictionary.
Biff, if you know a link, can you post.
I'm very curious to know one thing.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 2:57 PM

Good thing no one uses the hanky codes anymore. Boy were they confusing!!!!

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 2:59 PM

"Put a few AA batteries in the bottom and there you have it."

DIBS, is that your solution to everything!

Ok, I'm with BRG, can you give us at least a hint with one of the "Qs"?

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 3:05 PM

Q = Quaterback?????
I'm so lost.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:08 PM

So you've figured out what the Q stands for?

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:09 PM

No, not Quarterback.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:10 PM

Go, ahead, Biff...spellcheck it.
Also, there's an acroynm for you in one of the threads on the front page :)

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:12 PM

Quality
Quantity
Quantum
Quit
Quite
Queen
Quarterly
Question
Quack
Quake
Quail
Quest
Quill
Quiver
Quote

Got it...Quicksand

Quit...as in I quit
????????

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:17 PM

BRG, are you referring to the BILF reference under the Babs thread? I saw that earlier.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 3:19 PM

It is actually among those words. But if you couldn't figure it out from the conversation then you'll never understand the R, B or P first letters of the acronym even if I tell you the words.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:21 PM

It is actually among those words. But if you couldn't figure it out from the conversation then you'll never understand the R, B or P first letters of the acronym even if I tell you the words.


Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:27 PM

House of fire
House of fire, yeah
Let's build a house of fire, baby
Not one of wood or stone
Walk through my door of desire, baby
Come on in and make it your
home
Don't need a window to watch
you, baby
Don't need no roof overhead
Don't need no key to unlock ya,
baby
I'll use my lovin' instead
I won't tire
Take me higher
Building a house of fire, baby
Buildin' it with our love
We are buildin' a house of fire
every time we touch
House of fire
House of fire
We ain't gotta pay rent now, baby
No landlord to throw us out
I want to play in your garden,
baby
When you want it give me a shout
I won't tire
Take me higher
Building a house of fire, baby
Buildin' it with our love
We are buildin' a house of fire
every time we touch
We are building this house
together, baby
Standing on solid ground
We are building a house of fire
that you can't tear down
Brick by brick the flames get
higher
Build it strong with our desire
Building a house of fire, baby
Building it with our love
We are building a house of fire
every time we touch
We are building this house
together, baby
Standing on solid ground
We are building a house of fire
that you can't tear down
Building a house of fire, baby
Building it with our love
We are building a house of fire
every time we touch


Alice Cooper

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:28 PM

DIBS....aarrgghh.
And I can't call anybody, cause my phone died.

You're dangling this in front of me....just tell us already.

Yes, Biff....what you're out of corny comments?
Disappointing.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:30 PM

OK...Queen. So the first letters would indicate what kind of "Queen" you were; i.e. what your preference is (in type of guys).

Now for your homework, rent "The Boys In the Band" and "Kiss Me Guido" and "Cruisin"

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:32 PM

BRG...did you see the red knobs????????

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:36 PM

Queen...QUEEN!!!
That's it. Geesh. I held out for Queen. I thought it was going to be something more.
This gay thing isn't as flamboyant as it's made out to be :)

Red Knobs...is that another code phrase?????

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:41 PM

I thought you were all hot over some red knobs on a range in a HOTD last week. Maybe it was someone else???

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:42 PM

Yep, that was me. For me, appliances aren't about funtion but about beauty.
I don't cook. I heat things up.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:45 PM

See...I was right. You're over there posting about the red knobs. Jeesh.

Or is that your other personality??? Hmmmmm. Biff, we need to get to the bottom of this. here she doesn't know what I'm talking about and over on the "Today On The Brownstoner Pages" thread she's all hot and bothered about the knobs...like she was last week.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:46 PM

DIBS, please don't tell Biff to get to the bottom of anything, because I'm hot and bothered...like last week.

Are you sure it wasn't this week? maybe yesterday?

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 3:51 PM

There's an appliance nazi over in that thread BRG. I didn't want to use that word there b/c I dan't want to end the discussion.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 3:57 PM

What kind of range do you have DIBS?

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 4:06 PM

That's an extremely personal question. But since we've been baring our souls here, all my kitchen appliances are Bosch. They were there when I bought the place. Not my first choice but very nice. The DW is completely silent.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 4:11 PM

This work thing is really putting a cramp in my posting frequency. Everybody over to the "Today On The Brownstoner Pages" thread?

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 4:12 PM

Biff, Back and forth, back and forth.

Posted by: bayridgegirl at November 19, 2008 4:19 PM

Yep, I don't know if I'm going or coming...

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 4:25 PM

Dizzy, I'm so dizzy, my head is spinnin'
Like a whirlpool, it never ends
And it's you girl, makin it spin
You're makin' me dizzy

The first time that I saw you girl
I knew it, I just had to make you mi-ine
But it's so hard to talk to you
With fellas 'angin' 'round ya all the ti-ime
I want you for my sweet pet
But you keep playin' hard to get
I'm goin' 'round in circles all the ti-ee-i-ee-i-ee-ime

Dizzy, I'm so dizzy, my head is spinnin'
Like a whirlpool, it never ends
And it's you girl, makin it spin
You're makin' me dizzy

I finally got to talk to you
And I told you just exactly how I fe-elt
Then I 'eld you close to me and I kissed you
And my heart began to me-elt
Girl you got control of me
'Cause I'm so dizzy I can't see
I need to call a doctor for some hey-ee-ey-ee-ey-ee-ey-ee-ey-ee-ey-ee-elp

Dizzy, I'm so dizzy, my head is spinnin'
Like a whirlpool, it never ends
And it's you girl, makin it spin
You're makin' me dizzy, my head is spinnin'
Like a whirlpool, it never ends
And it's you girl, makin it spin
You're makin' me dizzy, (like a whirlpool), yeah
I'm dizzy (he's head is spi-i-i-i-i-i-nnin'
Bloody dizzy, (yeah his di-izzy)
Like a whirlpool (his head is spinnin')
Oh I'm dizzy (yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-eah)
Dizzy (oh his di-yeah-eh-eh-eh-izzy
Dizzy (yeah-eah-yeah)
Dizzy (my head is spinnnin')
Dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 19, 2008 4:31 PM

Let's reconvene in The What's Forum post just below this one. Seems more fun over there.

Posted by: Biff Champion at November 19, 2008 4:33 PM

WHAT a revelation to see how a couple 9/11 Truth-denying groupthinking thumbsuckers (naivedudinbed & Sparky) pass the time

gag me with a spoon

Posted by: simplicimus at November 19, 2008 8:37 PM

[sound of crickets]

Posted by: SnarkSlope at November 20, 2008 12:21 AM

Not an inapt description, at least you are poetic, I'll try to ignore you. Crickets are harmless, but your incessant chirping (or whatever you call it) can be irritating to some, especially when you get INDOORS

Posted by: simplicimus at November 20, 2008 6:15 AM

WHAT a revelation to see how a couple 9/11 Truth-denying groupthinking thumbsuckers (naivedudinbed & Sparky) pass the time

gag me with a spoon

Posted by: simplicimus at November 19, 2008 8:37 PM

WHAT a revelation that you have again added some more conspiracy theory crap!!!! We may be sucking on our thumbs but your head is firmly embedded up your ass.

Posted by: daveinbedstuy at November 20, 2008 7:50 AM

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